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Offline Holden McGroin

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« Reply #45 on: May 13, 2004, 11:22:36 PM »
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but I'm forgetting that men run the drug companies; a better birthcontrol pill is about as likely as a male birthcontrol pill. :)  I'll save that rant for another day.


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She added that although the Family Planning Association welcomed the news, she anticipated that it would be five to 10 years before a male contraceptive was available commercially.
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« Reply #46 on: May 13, 2004, 11:23:22 PM »
I don't know who you're preaching to.

We're Aces High flight simmers.

Unless we're married or we've managed to fluke out, we generally don't have sex.
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« Reply #47 on: May 13, 2004, 11:24:58 PM »
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I don't know who you're preaching to.

We're Aces High flight simmers.

Unless we're married or we've managed to fluke out, we generally don't have sex.


LOL good point:D
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« Reply #48 on: May 13, 2004, 11:36:04 PM »
Oh boy...literally.  The fun thing to think about is how much more delicate and complicated the female reproductive system is.  Turns out a lot of doctors are saying that hormonal birthcontrol is bad for women in the long run; anything over six years can jeoprodize their health.  The bottom line is: why has it taken this long to do these studies for males and develop these drugs?  We've had female birthcontrol pills since what, the 60s?  Here it is 2004 and we still don't have any birthcontrol options for males other than condoms.  I hate to sound cynical but I know of so many cases where a woman would stop taking her medication just so she could have a baby and lock a male into a relationship.  I think men should be able to protect themselves against that kind of behavior.

And I also read something interesting for all you fathers: disposable diapers raise the temperature in the genital areas of male babies to the point where it can cause a decrease in the sperm production that baby will be able to have as an adult, I think because of underdevelopement or something, it's been a while since I read the article.  So don't blame infertility all on junk food and beer, blame it on convience.

Geesh, this is one conversation I never thought I'd have online.
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« Reply #49 on: May 14, 2004, 12:27:32 AM »
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And I also read something interesting for all you fathers: disposable diapers raise the temperature in the genital areas of male babies to the point where it can cause a decrease in the sperm production that baby will be able to have as an adult, I think because of underdevelopement or something, it's been a while since I read the article.  So don't blame infertility all on junk food and beer, blame it on convience.


I'm not sure the census numbers support this idea. I'm guessing that the people that use cloth diapers anymore are few and far between and this has been the case for decades.
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« Reply #50 on: May 14, 2004, 12:55:42 AM »
Well, the thing is, you can have a low sperm count and still conceive, right?  I meant we're talking about, what, millions of sperm to start with?  I believe the article said that the samples that they had been taking over the years show a steady decrease in sperm levels, the decrease being more marked in the years since disposable diapers were used, and they believed, in part, it was contributed to this temperature increase.  As I said, it's been a while since I read the article, I might be forgetting stuff.  It was in some scientific journal my college roomate read (she's in genetics now turning mice different colors).  It'd be interesting to compare conception rates around 1800 or even 1900 vs today.  Think about how many people go to fertility specialists every year.  Granted, some of that is women putting off having kids until their 40s, but still one wonders.  Sorry, I find this stuff fascinating for some reason.
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« Reply #51 on: May 14, 2004, 12:57:01 AM »
No worries. I could very well be full of hooey.
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« Reply #52 on: May 14, 2004, 01:08:30 AM »
Nah, more likely to be me disremembering.  It was college after all, I was probably tipsy, instant messanging frantically or distracted by a male at the time (pity my poor, poor roomate). :)

*note to self: distract Mj from reading this thread*
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