Author Topic: Red states are welfare queens? (Read 2132 times)

TheDudeDVant · « **Reply #45 on:** May 18, 2004, 01:50:11 PM »

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Originally posted by Mini D
Everyone is going to care if their taxes go up 5% regardless of how much they make.

This is perhaps the stupidest aproach to taxation I've seen put forth.

MiniD

P.S. It's already 35% for them, down from 38%.

How punkish.... Stupidest approach? How bout being too stupid to read what he meant? I think he meant that the average millionaire wouldnt miss the additional $50k payed to taxes and that his/her life wouldnt have drastic changes from it..

Believeing corporations or your average millionaire pay 35% or 38% in taxes is pretty naive and stupid IMO. Its just simply not the truth. Dont believe? Anyone can do it. You start your own corporation/LLC (whatever), place your wealth there and see what you pay. Especially the first year.. If done correctly you will not pay 35% in taxes just like most corporations in america...

But geewizz minid... way to add to a thread.. Excellent attempt to belittle..

dude

lazs2 · « **Reply #46 on:** May 18, 2004, 02:20:39 PM »

why should anyone pay a higher percentage of tax than anyone else? A person that makes 20k a year is not going to have any lifestyle changes if he has to pay an extra $50 a year in taxes any more or less than a millionare will at 50k.

lazs

Toad · « **Reply #47 on:** May 18, 2004, 02:24:24 PM »

The basic principle espoused here is:

"Let's spend the OTHER GUY'S money!!!!"

Always easy to do and justification will always be found.

Creamo · « **Reply #48 on:** May 18, 2004, 02:48:08 PM »

Creamo · « **Reply #49 on:** May 18, 2004, 02:51:44 PM »

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Originally posted by strk
I just dont see what you mean. I meant a guy making several million is not going to care if his tax rate is raised from 30 to 35%. I thought putting it in English would be sufficient.

This is why I although hate the Republicans on abortion, Gays, and other religious topics, will still vote that way, every election.

Strk ain't got a pot to piss in, and if he did, wouldn't think he should give a donut shake out for anyone below him in the piss pot. But in the mean time, thinks he deserves a break and anyone successful should do more. If your extra clever and make money, you need to repent more taxes? That’s insane.

What a Democrat avacado.

StabbyTheIcePic · « **Reply #50 on:** May 18, 2004, 03:11:39 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
why should anyone pay a higher percentage of tax than anyone else? A person that makes 20k a year is not going to have any lifestyle changes if he has to pay an extra $50 a year in taxes any more or less than a millionare will at 50k.

lazs

When you live paycheck to paycheck 50 bucks does mean alot.

TheDudeDVant · « **Reply #51 on:** May 18, 2004, 03:12:08 PM »

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Originally posted by Creamo
This is why I although hate the Republicans on abortion, Gays, and other religious topics, will still vote that way, every election.

Strk ain't got a pot to piss in, and if he did, wouldn't think he should give a donut shake out for anyone below him in the piss pot. But in the mean time, thinks he deserves a break and anyone successful should do more. If your extra clever and make money, you need to repent more taxes? That’s insane.

What a Democrat avacado.

Thats great and very self-righteous but the simple fact is some if not most corporations pay a smaller percentage of taxes than the average middle class worker. An excellent example would be Enron...

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why should anyone pay a higher percentage of tax than anyone else? A person that makes 20k a year is not going to have any lifestyle changes if he has to pay an extra $50 a year in taxes any more or less than a millionare will at 50k. Lazs

I agree with this 100%.. A flat tax is the way to go. If benefits all that pay high % of their income to taxes.

Why is it you suppose that corporations are not all lined up behind the flat tax idea?? Because in many cases they pay less through Fed handouts, tax breaks, loopholes, and what ever other schemes one could find..

I don't read strk as being one to think the rich should pay all the tax as some here would like to lump him in that group. He has seemed like a fair man for the many years i have known him thru the intardnet. I could be wrong but Toad dug that quote from him up somewhere and I'm not sure if the correct context is being applied here...

dude

Creamo · « **Reply #52 on:** May 18, 2004, 03:16:45 PM »

No, he just wants them to pay more. And why?

How much taxes did you pay last year? Was it too much? Or less?

TheDudeDVant · « **Reply #53 on:** May 18, 2004, 03:23:50 PM »

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Originally posted by Creamo
No, he just wants them to pay more. And why?

How much taxes did you pay last year? Was it too much? Or less?

You dont know what he wants and hasn't anyone ever told you the problems with taking things for granted like this??

I believe I pay too much every year when I have so little say where it goes.. If I were to pay the same amount to my local governments, I would have better feelings about it..

dude

StabbyTheIcePic · « **Reply #54 on:** May 18, 2004, 03:25:35 PM »

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Originally posted by Creamo
No, he just wants them to pay more. And why?

How much taxes did you pay last year? Was it too much? Or less?

If your a large multi billion dollar corp. just get yourself a good accountant and lawyer and you won't have to pay any taxes.

Creamo · « **Reply #55 on:** May 18, 2004, 03:35:03 PM »

Frogman, please. Don't start with me, Im not a political retard that will bait and switch with you. Send me a post card from your Dad's next hotel.

Dude, what he wants is in print. " I meant a guy making several million is not going to care if his tax rate is raised from 30 to 35%. I thought putting it in english would be sufficient."

Frogmanthetardpic has never paid taxes, but a guy that makes millions WILL care.

You retards have no clue, and think because you don't make alot money, or pay taxes, think that anyone that does, should just eat 5% more. Your out of our minds. Well, not so much that, just are stupid. Im not going to argue anymore. Sorry.

StabbyTheIcePic · « **Reply #56 on:** May 18, 2004, 03:38:01 PM »

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Originally posted by Creamo
Frogman, please. Don't start with me, Im not a political retard that will bait and switch with you. Send me a post card from your Dad's next hotel.

Dude, what he wants is in print. " I meant a guy making several million is not going to care if his tax rate is raised from 30 to 35%. I thought putting it in english would be sufficient."

Frogmanthetardpic has never paid taxes, but a guy that makes millions WILL care.

You retards have no clue, and think because you don't make alot money, or pay taxes, think that anyone that does, should just eat 5% more. Your out of our minds. Well, not so much that, just are stupid. Im not going to argue anymore. Sorry.

lol creamo is off the wagon again. Most truely wealthy make more money off of interest from sources that cannot be taxed then they pay each year in taxes. I am not talking about the 200k-300k a year chumps, but the true multimillionares.

-MZ- · « **Reply #57 on:** May 18, 2004, 03:40:11 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
I live in farm country. We subsidize for a number of reasons but all of them help every person in the U.S.

Sending money to guys like Ted Turner and Scottie Pippen does not help me one damn bit.

-MZ- · « **Reply #58 on:** May 18, 2004, 03:40:46 PM »

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Originally posted by StabbyTheIcePic
lol creamo is off the wagon again.

He should be off the board too.

Creamo · « **Reply #59 on:** May 18, 2004, 03:41:26 PM »

Or your at home at Dads house or running up a internet cafe bill.

There are no wagons next to my liquor cabinet jr.