CV Denial

[SwampRat]

Something needs to be done about the Bish/Nits consistently taking the Rooks CV's.  I signed on to AH pretty much because of CV ops, yet for the last couple of days the Rooks have been steadfastly denied the use of carriers.  Constantly fighting a losing battle is one thing, I love being on the side with fewest numbers, but never getting to use carriers absolutely blows and definately is not worth the pricetag of this game. Right now there are 45Bish, 64Nit, and 29Rook, and yet again the Rook have nary a CV and still being attacked hard on both fronts.  The current numbers ought to be a clear signal to what can happen to the game when a VERY big part of this game is denied one side (or the other for that matter).  This is not a question of fair play, this is not a war, and were supposed to be having fun yes?  Just my two cents for what it's worth.  

[Ozark]

I somewhat agree...however, something needs to be done about the Bishops/Rooks consistently taking the Knight's CV's.

Just a view from the other side of the fence.

Regards,
Ozark

[SwampRat]

Sorry, let me clarify.  I'm not trying to make it a "side" issue.  The problem is clearly this...AH in the last couple of days has become "Whichever country has the fewest numbers gets no CV".  That in itself leads me to believe that there are a LOT of players interested only in the easy fight.  No offense to anyone but you know who you are. All I'm trying to say is, perhaps at least one cv should be available per country all the time.  Hey, I like flyin off carriers...and I don't think it very courageous to jump to another country just to do so.

[LePaul]

Its an issue with sportsmanship, as I mentioned in a post sometime last week.  Seems the teams of larger numbers never lay off the team with the least.  Seldom do you see folks offering to change sides to balance things out.

I feel your pain.

Paul

[SwampRat]

Well said LePaul, no sportsmanship whatsoever, and hardly any teamwork, least for the Rooks.  I flew Nits at first and did see a little more teamwork there, but they also often had superiour numbers.  I agree with you but IMO I'd rather not see folks jumping country all the time.  Yes, very sportmanlike but detracts severely from the ..err..community.  What were seeing is exactly the same thing that happens all the time in Air Warrior and WarBirds...I'd hoped things would be better here.

[Razor]

  You ain't a kiddin man. I think if you take all the CV's from one country then RESET! should occur, they are bases after all are they not? I've been practicing with the big guns offline and wanted to try my newly honed skills online. Yeah right. All I see are would-be sim pilots paddin their scores by setting up vulch farms at a base where their CV can support them real nice. I pay for this? I don't think so. Its ok by me to be the underdog, benn doing it for a while now. BUT, I still want to enjoy the game and ALL it has to offer. Which means...GIVE US BACK OUR ******* CV's ya stinkin nits.   Seriously though, this is an issue which HTC may or may not have forseen. Well, we all see it now so FIX IT SOON.
  Having said that...I still say we need to consider 2 maps,one for PAC and one EURO, and have 3 war eras,early,middle,late. Only the planes of that era and theatre will be availiable.Would this not cure some of the problems I hear about concerning one plane outmatching the rest? We do have the F6F now so the N1K has met its match. If we just had a D9 in a Euro theatre we'd be set.   I know I know, I'll just have to wait, and I will to. I may squeak but I'm not going anywhere, too many good things about this sim and it is the best out there today. What do you think HTC folks? Can you help out us customers and fix the CV problem??? I know you can.  

Razer/Skidog out

PS: I sure would like to have my old ID back...will that happen before or after we get the D9?

[wolf37]

Well it sure is funny how Dec 30th was the first time the knights had the numbers since 1.05 came out, and all of a sudden the Rooks are crying how we are gangbanging them. it was only two days ago when the knights had lost both there fleets, but I will have to look for the post that has them crying fowl. It sure is funny how nobody remembers the Bishops with 70 to 80 pilots on line, the Rooks with 40 to 50 pilots online, and the Knights with 40 to 50 pilots on line, and the Knights fighting the Rooks and the Bishops at the same time and having no fleets to sail around in. Well you will excuse me if I dont feel bad for you.
I know that when the Knights are getting gangbanged we all hear from the Rooks and the Bishops that it happens to all three teams and it is just our turn. well, maybe you should remember that when you are the ones getting trashed.



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wolf37
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THUNDER BIRDS

[SwampRat]

Wolf..you'll notice I was attempting NOT to make this a "side" issue.  Not suprised to see a vengful minded post, and nobody is asking for your sympathy, but while your at it, notice the way your blatently cutting off your nose to spite your face.  This problem "fix" would benefit all and do away with the need for attitudes such as your own.

[Ozark]

Ok...My point is, every country will have the odds against them at one time or another. That's just the ebb and flow of the game...err...sim.  

Just wait a few (minutes...hours...days). The one thing that has amazed me from the first day of Beta is that every country has their days (good or bad). No country has been stomped to the point of no return....the darn Rooks or the darn Bishops always rise again to kick butt. <S>

[CavemanJ]

wolf, mate, you've been flying off peak hours again haven't ya.  since the release of 1.05 the rooks have been in the barrel, and prime time is the absolute worst.  Deffinately NOT worth the price of admission.  We've had a few scattered opportunities and break outs, but as soon as prime time starts getting close the bish and nits get all the numbers and it becomes 150 vulching on 50.  As I'm writing this the rooks have been held to the same 3-4 fields for over 24hrs now, with the exception of an almost break out made earlier against the bishops.  NO attempts at a reset have been made by the bish or the nits, and with the efficiency the nits showed last night it should've been NO problem at all for them to reset the arena.  Guess ya'll lost all honor eh mate?

[SwampRat]

I agree totally with Cave!!  I logged off last night...err..this morning thinking there would have been a reset.  Back on today around 4pm, Rooks have 1 cv and a couple of bases more than when I left.  Then I see the Bish/Nits both move off the Rook mainland in order only to keep the Rooks down. This was confirmed as agreed on by the Nits/Bish on many occasions over the open channel. This is chickentoejam at it's best.  I wouldn't dream of goin Bish or Nit now if my life depended on it, it would be to embarrasing.  If the dipweeds responsible for this scenario had any sense of honor or dignity they would finish the job and let the fight start again.  Obviously they do not.

[Staga]

I agree...

I really would like to see a port next to HQ too, That way if some country is "gangbanged" it still have CV in use (usually). Also ports could have even tougher AA-artillery than now, something like those in CVs.

EDIT:
Cave please stop. Heres couple screenshots for you...
Heres first one and this one is taken couple hours later. As you can see only Bishes and Rooks really didnt take each others fields, just bases owned by Knights.
Oh and look all those huge sectorbars in Bish/Rook Front. Sorry theres none.

So Cave, What was your comment again?

[This message has been edited by Staga (edited 12-31-2000).]

[Que]

Swamprat:

HT reset the arena for you guys tonight. You have your carriers back.

Que

[jihad]

 since the release of 1.05 the rooks have been in the barrel, and prime time is the absolute worst.

 LOL!-what a crock of crap-yesterday the bishops were down to 3 fields and getting hit by knights and rooks,we had no CVs,no radar but we kicked your butts anyway!

[Fatty]

Seems like if the ports for the left and right sides were on the HQ island like they are for the northern team, CVs wouldn't start out on the ropes like they do down south.