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Offline muckmaw

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AP:Iraqi Artillery Shells with WMDs Found
« on: May 17, 2004, 10:11:36 AM »
New blurb that just came across on our AP system here at the exchange.

More info to follow but the blurb read:

Stockpile of Iraqi Artillery Shells found containing Sarin>More to Follow

If I see more news, will post with link.

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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2004, 10:16:13 AM »
The news I've heard is that a single 155mm shell used as a roadside bomb contained some Sarin which did not completely set off, just enough to detect the chemical.

FYI: Sarin has a shelf life of 5 years.

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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2004, 10:18:57 AM »
You're a broker Muck ?

eeeekkk I've perhaps worked for you :D

What market place ?

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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2004, 11:02:08 AM »
Sarin Nerve Agent Bomb Explodes in Iraq

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By CHRIS TORCHIA, Associated Press Writer

BAGHDAD, Iraq - A roadside bomb containing sarin nerve agent exploded near a U.S. military convoy, the U.S. military said Monday. Two people were treated for "minor exposure," but no serious injuries were reported.



"The Iraqi Survey Group confirmed today that a 155-millimeter artillery round containing sarin nerve agent had been found," said Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt, the chief military spokesman in Iraq (news - web sites). "The round had been rigged as an IED (improvised explosive device) which was discovered by a U.S. force convoy.


"A detonation occurred before the IED could be rendered inoperable. This produced a very small dispersal of agent," he said.


The incident occurred "a couple of days ago," he said.


The Iraqi Survey Group is a U.S. organization whose task was to search for weapons of mass destruction after the ouster of Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) in last year's invasion.


The round was an old `binary-type' shell in which two chemicals held in separate sections are mixed after firing to produce sarin, Kimmitt said.


He said he believed that insurgents who rigged the artillery shell as a bomb didn't know it contained the nerve agent, and that the dispersal of the nerve agent from such a rigged device was very limited.


"The former regime had declared all such rounds destroyed before the 1991 Gulf War (news - web sites)," Kimmitt said. "Two explosive ordinance team members were treated for minor exposure to nerve agent as a result of the partial detonation of the round."


In 1995, Japan's Aum Shinrikyo cult unleashed sarin gas in Tokyo's subways, killing 12 people and sickening thousands. In February of this year, Japanese courts convicted the cult's former leader, Shoko Asahara, and sentence him to be executed.


Developed in the mid-1930s by Nazi scientists, a single drop of sarin can cause quick, agonizing choking death. There are no known instances of the Nazis actually using the gas.


Nerve gases work by inhibiting key enzymes in the nervous system, blocking their transmission. Small exposures can be treated with antidotes, if administered quickly.


Antidotes to nerve gases similar to sarin are so effective that top poison gas researchers predict they eventually will cease to be a war .

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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2004, 11:03:54 AM »
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4997808/

Bomb containing deadly sarin explodes in Iraq
Blast releases ‘small quantity’ of gas, but no injuries reported

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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2004, 11:07:26 AM »
Wonder where the insurgents got that single 155mm Sarin laced Shell.

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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2004, 11:13:17 AM »
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Originally posted by muckmaw
Wonder where the insurgents got that single 155mm Sarin laced Shell.


I'm not sure, but just to give a clue of what we've been looking for, all the FX-type nerve agents (non-Sarin I believe?) that Saddam reportedly had could fit into a double wide garage in a country the size of California. Shouldn't be hard to hide.

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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2004, 11:25:42 AM »
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Originally posted by muckmaw
Wonder where the insurgents got that single 155mm Sarin laced Shell.


They didn't even know it contained Sarin. For it's bombing they set it up like it was a conventional shell. It is also being reported that it is pre 1991 era , and was unmarked. So either it was just a random shell that got mixed in with conventional warheads so the inspectors never found it or the insurgents stumbled on a stockpile. We will know soon, because if they have more, they will be using them correctly next time.
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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2004, 11:26:19 AM »
Aw come on you guys all the experts on this board have said NO WMD'S are in Iraq!!

Clearly this must be a plant by the Americans :(

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« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2004, 11:26:58 AM »
Another "WMD Found thread"..Le Yawn..:o

Keep on diggin.
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« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2004, 11:28:13 AM »
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Yet another "WMD Found thread"..Le Yawn:o

Keepon diggin'..


Thats an "embarassment" smilie, and thats okay, we won't rub it in your face too badly.

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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2004, 11:31:17 AM »
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Thats an "embarassment" smilie, and thats okay, we won't rub it in your face too badly.


Please...Rub it in my face..:lol
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« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2004, 11:32:17 AM »
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We will know soon, because if they have more, they will be using them correctly next time.


That's good....I hate to think of them not killing US troops with something they didn't have in the first place.

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« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2004, 11:33:29 AM »
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Thats an "embarassment" smilie, and thats okay, we won't rub it in your face too badly.


I would not declare victory or failure this early. I really hope the insurgence are not sitting on a stockpile of warheads, and that it is just an isolated warhead. Or our troops will be paying the price soon.

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« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2004, 11:34:51 AM »
Well, this should finally put the "did Iraq have WMDs"-question to rest. Suck it up pacifist tards.