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Offline Captain Virgil Hilts

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« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2004, 02:24:14 PM »
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You feel way better that Halibuton and Enron bought a presidency then you do about Moore comunicating the reality of Bushes policies to the public.  You have the absolute worst president in the history of your country. Starting wars based on lies, stealing the election with election fraud. And your worried that micheal moore might be wrecking your country.
Just how brain dead can people be?
That is sad.
Moore will end up dead. Look at the hate on this board alone.


That is YOUR opinion.

You DO NOT live here.

You tell us how brain dead people can be, you seem to have cornered the market.

No one is going to kill that fat, ignorant, arrogant slob. He wouldn't even make a good martyr. He's safe, we don't kill those we don't agree with. Perhaps you have us confused with SADDAM HUSSIEN and his fallen regime in Iraq.
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« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2004, 02:25:57 PM »
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You feel way better that Halibuton and Enron bought a presidency then you do about Moore comunicating the reality of Bushes policies to the public.

Enron gave $682,000 to the demos in 2000

You have the absolute worst president in the history of your country.

James Buchanan sucked pretty bad, he was worse.

Starting wars based on lies, stealing the election with election fraud.

election fraud in 2000 in Florida was not found.  Not one recount done officially or by independant media has been in favor of Gore.

And your worried that micheal moore might be wrecking your country.
Just how brain dead can people be?
That is sad.
Moore will end up dead.


everyone ends up dead.

Look at the hate on this board alone.

Don't you hate Bush? You are not helping lower the level of hatred


Get some new rhetoric Pongo your diatribe is getting old.
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« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2004, 02:30:43 PM »
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Get some new rhetoric Pongo your diatribe is getting old.


He can't. Every once in a while, he even admits he knows nothing of what he speaks (witness his replies in the thread about al-Sadr).

What you see is the best he's got. The ravings of a mad man, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

Funny to see him preach about hate, when his hate for Bush has him so blind he can't offer a decent arguement and he has to admit he knows nothing of which he speaks.

Be prepared, there will be more mindless drivel preprogrammed by the liberal source of your choice to come. Bet on it.
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« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2004, 02:36:25 PM »
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we don't kill those we don't agree with.  


Are you serious?

I missed that class in school where we were taught that  JFK,  MLK, Abe Lincoln, et. al., were all suicides :rolleyes:

Fred Thompson, Clint Eastwood, Reagan, Sonny Bono ( :rofl  )  Arnold, all republicans...I know of no democrats in office that were former actors or performers.
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« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2004, 02:42:25 PM »
Moore will end up dead?

You betcha. If his life were a "Clue" game, the perp would be

"Michael Moore, in the dining room, with the fork."

It'll be ruled a suicide.
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« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2004, 02:49:22 PM »
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Originally posted by Red Tail 444
Are you serious?

I missed that class in school where we were taught that  JFK,  MLK, Abe Lincoln, et. al., were all suicides :rolleyes:

Fred Thompson, Clint Eastwood, Reagan, Sonny Bono ( :rofl  )  Arnold, all republicans...I know of no democrats in office that were former actors or performers.


Red, your posts are often most entertaining. :D

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« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2004, 02:49:58 PM »
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Fred Thompson, Clint Eastwood, Reagan, Sonny Bono ( :rofl  )  Arnold, all republicans...


How could you leave Fred Grandy off of that list!

Gopher deserves better from you.

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« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2004, 02:51:53 PM »
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Moore will end up dead?

You betcha. If his life were a "Clue" game, the perp would be

"Michael Moore, in the dining room, with the fork."

It'll be ruled a suicide.


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« Reply #23 on: June 25, 2004, 02:53:27 PM »
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Are you serious?

I missed that class in school where we were taught that  JFK,  MLK, Abe Lincoln, et. al., were all suicides :rolleyes:

Fred Thompson, Clint Eastwood, Reagan, Sonny Bono ( :rofl  )  Arnold, all republicans...I know of no democrats in office that were former actors or performers.


Sonny Bono was a Republican???? hehehehe...

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« Reply #24 on: June 25, 2004, 02:55:10 PM »
Oh forgot to add.....One really doesn't see much of the old cry "Landslide Bush" these days does one?

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« Reply #25 on: June 25, 2004, 02:57:23 PM »
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How could you leave Fred Grandy off of that list!

Gopher deserves better from you.

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Sorry...totally forgot about him  ...but I WAS talking about actors....:lol

Torque, glad you're entertained...this BBs rather entertaining in its own right...good to not take too much of this seriously...

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« Reply #26 on: June 25, 2004, 02:59:17 PM »
I don't think it's so much "Hollyweird's Influence on Politics" as it is "DNC Using Hollyweird as Propaganda Ministry".

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« Reply #27 on: June 25, 2004, 03:03:13 PM »
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Sonny Bono was a Republican???? hehehehe...


Yet another dirty little secret of the GOP :D

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« Reply #28 on: June 25, 2004, 03:03:29 PM »
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Well said.

OTOH, I don't believe Moore's agenda is such a new thing. Before movies, books were definitely written by very influencial authors with political agendas. Upton Sinclair comes to mind, and maybe  John Steinbeck.


Ironically, Sinclair's 1934 defeat in the California governor's election was partially due to advertisements shown in movie houses:

Quick google:

Perhaps the most effective anti-Sinclair campaign was that of movie mogul Louis B. Mayer who, wrote Weaver, "turned his Culver City studio into the unofficial headquarters of the film industry’s organized campaign of vilification and misrepresentation." The effort included "fake newsreel interviews with bewhiskered actors voicing their enthusiasm for EPIC in Russian accents. The most effective footage focussed on Central Casting hobos huddled on the borders of California, waiting to live off the bounty of its taxpayers once Sinclair got elected."


Also....

To scuttle Upton Sinclair, they first of all threatened to move at least four studios to Florida. Next Mayer distributed blank checks to his employees. All the cheques were made out to himself. Employees were effectively being intimidated to donate money to a slush fund to defeat Sinclair. Columbia's Harry Cohn used other tactics but also threatened his staff using their job security. Warner Brothers studio simply assessed each staff member a $3 contribution. The half million dollars generated that way was increased to nearly 10 million, an unprecedented amount with which to launch a political campaign for Governor. The money was used to pay for newspaper ads, radio ads, billboard advertising, phony anti-Sinclair smear groups, and a massive leaflet campaign.

All this direct participation by Hollywood was nothing when compared to their most devastating piece of underhanded trickery and deceit that ended up setting the standards for all future election campaigns, ...national or otherwise.

MGM studio, under Irving Thalberg's direction produced a contrived campaign propaganda film that was edited down to 6 minutes and added to Randolph Hearst's Newsreels which normally ran twice per week in all theaters. Louis B. Mayer went so far as to threaten to withhold the feature films if the political trailers were not shown as well.
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« Reply #29 on: June 25, 2004, 03:04:14 PM »
I think most people have believed this one will be a very close call right from the very beginning. I know I have.

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In a "normal" environment, this one would be very close. In today's environment, there's too many wild cards. Another major terrorist strike against the US? Success/defeat with the new Iraqi government? Bin Laden caught/escapes again?

So many things that are in the "abnormal" category for a Presidential race.
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