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« Reply #30 on: June 25, 2004, 03:04:36 PM »
I'll say it just like I did before. Bush in a landslide.

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« Reply #31 on: June 25, 2004, 03:09:50 PM »
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After all, they do not think they are bound by the same rules of fairness that apply to the newspapers or television news.  You see, they realize that it is hard for the opposition to argue  


What rules of fairness?  That went out a long time ago, around the time Rush popped up.

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« Reply #32 on: June 25, 2004, 03:11:02 PM »
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I'll say it just like I did before. Bush in a landslide.


I think the correct phrase is "Bush in a (frozen) mudslide."

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« Reply #33 on: June 25, 2004, 03:13:31 PM »
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Ironically, Sinclair's 1934 defeat in the California governor's election was partially due to advertisements shown in movie houses:

Quick google:

Perhaps the most effective anti-Sinclair campaign was that of movie mogul Louis B. Mayer who, wrote Weaver, "turned his Culver City studio into the unofficial headquarters of the film industry’s organized campaign of vilification and misrepresentation." The effort included "fake newsreel interviews with bewhiskered actors voicing their enthusiasm for EPIC in Russian accents. The most effective footage focussed on Central Casting hobos huddled on the borders of California, waiting to live off the bounty of its taxpayers once Sinclair got elected."


Also....

To scuttle Upton Sinclair, they first of all threatened to move at least four studios to Florida. Next Mayer distributed blank checks to his employees. All the cheques were made out to himself. Employees were effectively being intimidated to donate money to a slush fund to defeat Sinclair. Columbia's Harry Cohn used other tactics but also threatened his staff using their job security. Warner Brothers studio simply assessed each staff member a $3 contribution. The half million dollars generated that way was increased to nearly 10 million, an unprecedented amount with which to launch a political campaign for Governor. The money was used to pay for newspaper ads, radio ads, billboard advertising, phony anti-Sinclair smear groups, and a massive leaflet campaign.

All this direct participation by Hollywood was nothing when compared to their most devastating piece of underhanded trickery and deceit that ended up setting the standards for all future election campaigns, ...national or otherwise.

MGM studio, under Irving Thalberg's direction produced a contrived campaign propaganda film that was edited down to 6 minutes and added to Randolph Hearst's Newsreels which normally ran twice per week in all theaters. Louis B. Mayer went so far as to threaten to withhold the feature films if the political trailers were not shown as well.


Ahh yes. My old brain said to me "Sinclair....propaganda....pol itics....bzzzzt". Thanks for the reminder.

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« Reply #34 on: June 25, 2004, 03:40:26 PM »
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Oh forgot to add.....One really doesn't see much of the old cry "Landslide Bush" these days does one?


do a search on my posts....

LANDSLIDE BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #35 on: June 25, 2004, 04:25:52 PM »
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Are you serious?

I missed that class in school where we were taught that  JFK,  MLK, Abe Lincoln, et. al., were all suicides :rolleyes:

Fred Thompson, Clint Eastwood, Reagan, Sonny Bono ( :rofl  )  Arnold, all republicans...I know of no democrats in office that were former actors or performers.




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(former Representative so I guess you're OK, but Sonny, both Freds and Clint are former politicians too. )
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« Reply #36 on: June 25, 2004, 04:35:41 PM »
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Ben "Cooter" Jones

Democrat - Georgia

(former Representative so I guess you're OK, but Sonny, both Freds and Clint are former politicians too. )


Crrrrrrrrrrrr-AAAAAAAAA---zee Cooter Comin at ya, come on...

Yes I wasnt tallying current vs former, only making a point regarding hollywood and political affiliation. I knew there would be several I missed, from both parties...

To which, I challenge those thad still hold onto the Bush in a landslide theory

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=536&ncid=536&e=7&u=/ap/20040625/ap_on_el_pr/nader_convention

I guess that old story about being afraid of the lion if the lion's afraid of you rings true in this instance.

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« Reply #37 on: June 25, 2004, 05:34:20 PM »
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Think of what his "documentary" means.  For the first time in the history of American cinema, a director has made a film with the express purpose of scuttling the reelection of a sitting president.  He has done it with the verbal and financial support of the political opponents of that president, both domestic and foreign.


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« Reply #38 on: June 25, 2004, 06:00:37 PM »
Bring back the House of Un-American Activities Committe!

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« Reply #39 on: June 25, 2004, 06:21:46 PM »
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Moore will end up dead. Look at the hate on this board alone.


But most funny is fact, that people whitch deny him didnt saw his  documentary and they dont even want to see it.

Im wondering how do they make decisions like that.

If fact, that some trolll cry that movie is anti american is enough for them to deny it is kinda funny fact..
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« Reply #40 on: June 25, 2004, 10:53:25 PM »
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do a search on my posts....

LANDSLIDE BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Aren't all landslides typically downhill, no?

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« Reply #41 on: June 25, 2004, 10:57:39 PM »
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do a search on my posts....

LANDSLIDE BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I think I'd like to play High Stakes Poker with you!

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« Reply #42 on: June 26, 2004, 07:07:12 AM »
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Aren't all landslides typically downhill, no?


did you figure that out all by yourself or did you have to look it up
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« Reply #43 on: June 26, 2004, 08:00:27 AM »
bowling for Columbine was on a few weeks ago.  My wife and I tried to watch it but in our eyes it was so skewed it was not fun to watch.  In our opinions his movies shouldnt be called documentries.

Document, hence the word means that of documented proof?

I wonder if he has links to his proofs for his new movie.  does any of the pro moore people know of any?

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« Reply #44 on: June 26, 2004, 08:21:44 AM »
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You've all heard the type of high-octane, vitriolic hyperbole he uses when he talks about Bush.  This is the language of fanaticism.  I believe few of us, conservative or moderate or liberal, would deny that he often plays fast and loose with the facts.  Many of the Congressmen he interviewed for this movie are livid about the way he has edited statements they made.  

Like Sixpence said...change the names a bit and use the same adjectives for Rush, O'Rielly, Coulter (<-the worst of the bunch for playing fast and loose with facts and quotes to create pure propoganda); not to mention the Karl Rove misinformation service.  These folks spew everyday.  Moore pops out 1-2 movies in 5 years and the shrill whines of neo-cons would make you think the sky is falling.