Author Topic: Hanger GV and Bird Select (Read 1518 times)

MOSQ · « **Reply #15 on:** June 28, 2004, 02:32:49 PM »

Devil22,
If you'd pay attention to what HTC is saying you'd understand.

When you login the Hangar is not yet fully updated, therefore the perk points cost is not correct on your computer yet.

Next time login, and hang out in the tower for a few minutes looking over the map to see what's going on and where. Then go to the the hangar and pick your 262.

Rank has absolutley nothing to do with using perk points. Where did you get that crazy idea?

devil22 · « **Reply #16 on:** June 28, 2004, 02:39:22 PM »

mosq if you had been paying attention u would understand my point. when i tried to use a 262 when it said it cost 46 fu^^ing points, i had been in the game almost 4 hours at that point. also once in the hanger the cost to does change while u are in there. sit in a hanger and watch the 262 point cost, it does not change while u r in the hanger. it sits at a fixed point. all i ask is to pay what the thing says it cost. not have to pay a cost i cannot see when i choose to take off. i and you should have to pay the displayed cost at the time of bird or gv selection

devil22 · « **Reply #17 on:** June 28, 2004, 02:43:39 PM »

and my point about rank is this simple. the better your rank the faster YOU AS A PLAYER are aquiring points per flight. lets say for example you are ranked 40th in main arena, that means that you as a player kill more times than you get killed, and you land those kills with a higher frequency. that is what rank has to do with this. take me for example, last time i checked i was ranked 1555 out of what 5000 players or so. on average in an air to air engagement i will kill 0-1 plane in about 4 hours. i get killed more times in 30 minutes than i kill in 30 hours. and this is not from a lack of trying. i engage as often as i can when i think i have a better advantage. soon enough i am dead or have a fuel leak or bloody pilot or oil on the windows and am forced to sent packing for home.

SlapShot · « **Reply #18 on:** June 28, 2004, 02:45:15 PM »

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Originally posted by devil22
slapshot. i was usin the 500 rank as a break point, but you illustrate my point, the better you are ranked the faster you pull in kills, and the faster you get points. if u r ranked like me, 1555 or worse, you average 0-1 kills in 5 hours, and it aint from a lack of trying. well hitech you made my day. so i can never trust my eyes when i see a perk item cost, from now on its the rule of 10X, multiply cost by 10. thanks, you just eliminated my ability to fly the perk planes. i can never trust the cost displayed. well for all of you ranked below 900 or so, use the perk planes with honor and remember us little guys who you have to stand on to get where you are at. it would appear that HTC values its best pilots, but takes all our money just the same, and listens and responds favorably to the best. congrats to the beuracracy and the snobbisim. tho a rerfresh button might help some.

Wrong.

Shane is one of the worst players in here. He is currently ranked 2645 and still gets 10+ kills per hour. Your rank is MUCH better than his so you should be able to do the same, and earn all the perks you could ever want.

congrats to the beuracracy and the snobbisim. tho a rerfresh button might help some

It sounded liek HT probably was considering creating a "refesh" button, but I have a feeling that hell will freeze over before that happens after your tactful remark.

My granny use to say ...

"You'll get more with honey than you will with vinegar".

devil22 · « **Reply #19 on:** June 28, 2004, 02:51:23 PM »

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Originally posted by devil22
congrats to the beuracracy and the snobbisim. tho a rerfresh button might help some.

slapshot had you read the next line you would have seen me agree about the refresh button. and to your granny slapshot: i catch more flies with my hands than with honey or vinegar. as for shane, i cant explain him, tho i remember a time when he was ranked 900 or better.

SlapShot · « **Reply #20 on:** June 28, 2004, 02:54:03 PM »

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Originally posted by devil22
and my point about rank is this simple. the better your rank the faster YOU AS A PLAYER are aquiring points per flight. lets say for example you are ranked 40th in main arena, that means that you as a player kill more times than you get killed, and you land those kills with a higher frequency. that is what rank has to do with this. take me for example, last time i checked i was ranked 1555 out of what 5000 players or so. on average in an air to air engagement i will kill 0-1 plane in about 4 hours. i get killed more times in 30 minutes than i kill in 30 hours. and this is not from a lack of trying. i engage as often as i can when i think i have a better advantage. soon enough i am dead or have a fuel leak or bloody pilot or oil on the windows and am forced to sent packing for home.

Wrong again.

C00RS is currently ranked #3 and he only gets 6.66 kills per hour. Now compare that to Shane's ranking and his kills per hour. Your logic is way off and I don't believe that you understand how the ranking system works.

Again ... rank is not an indication of how quickly one can obtain perks. Don't let the ranking system fool you.

devil22 · « **Reply #21 on:** June 28, 2004, 02:58:19 PM »

then y not eliminate the ranking system and perk point system as well. in my oppinion the perk point system should go back to the way it used to be. a fixed price for perk planes. that system was stable. if we have to have perk points then we should go back to the way it was when i first stated out in aces high 1 way back when. the 262 cost 200 points 24 hours a day. no guess work. but i think we should get rid of the perk point system, or re work it, so that all players are given an alloted amount of points per month or are alotted a certain amount of flights in "Perk" planes and othe "perk" items. that way ever1 can fly nething at netime, with out wprry of price, just how many times in a given time frame they have gotten that item outta the hanger.

devil22 · « **Reply #22 on:** June 28, 2004, 02:58:51 PM »

oops on spelling wprry = worry

SlapShot · « **Reply #23 on:** June 28, 2004, 03:00:34 PM »

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Originally posted by devil22
slapshot had you read the next line you would have seen me agree about the refresh button. and to your granny slapshot: i catch more flies with my hands than with honey or vinegar. as for shane, i cant explain him, tho i remember a time when he was ranked 900 or better.

Thats the point.

On one hand you call him a beuracrat and a snob and on the other hand you say, well that would be nice if you did that for me.

That wouldn't fly with me. The damage was done in the first line.

The reason why you can't explain the "Shane" conundrum is that you don't really understand the ranking system.

Take a look at the top 10 ranked guys ... Shane for the most part would smoke most of those guys. He just doesn't choose to play the "rank" game ... along with a lot of us.

devil22 · « **Reply #24 on:** June 28, 2004, 03:05:28 PM »

im not here to run damage control for what i say or do. all i want is an equal chance to fly perk planes, but with the system that is in place currently, i can not. and again it is not from a lack of trying. the rank system to me is just a snide way for others to say "I am the best there is because I am ranked X out of X players. You can never beat me because you are ranked X out of X players, and you are ranked far below me." I choose not to play the rank game either. but every time i see a player land 4, 6 ,8, 10, 19 kills in a 262 the first bloody thing i do is look at their rank, and what do i see, 900 or better, usually avereageing 200 or better. that simple, that painful, that bad.

SlapShot · « **Reply #25 on:** June 28, 2004, 03:05:30 PM »

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Originally posted by devil22
then y not eliminate the ranking system and perk point system as well. in my oppinion the perk point system should go back to the way it used to be. a fixed price for perk planes. that system was stable. if we have to have perk points then we should go back to the way it was when i first stated out in aces high 1 way back when. the 262 cost 200 points 24 hours a day. no guess work. but i think we should get rid of the perk point system, or re work it, so that all players are given an alloted amount of points per month or are alotted a certain amount of flights in "Perk" planes and othe "perk" items. that way ever1 can fly nething at netime, with out wprry of price, just how many times in a given time frame they have gotten that item outta the hanger.

In the middle of your angst, you failed to see this from HT ..

If you would wait 15 secs after entering the arena it would be withing 1% of the real cost.

Anytime you enter the hanger, pick your perk plane, the variance from what you thought it cost to what it really cost will only vary by 1%. So if you go into the hanger and see the cost at 100 perks, then the real cost might be 101 perks. This is no out of hand IMO and something that I can deal with.

devil22 · « **Reply #26 on:** June 28, 2004, 03:07:13 PM »

no i saw that plain as day, but what no1 sees is that i waited 10 minutes and the cost stayed locked at 46 points. once in the hanger THE COST DOES NOT MOVE AT ALL unless you refresh the list.

devil22 · « **Reply #27 on:** June 28, 2004, 03:08:46 PM »

if the cost changed as u sit and watch i wouldnt have a problem with it, but it does not change as you look at it. it stays fixed to where it was when you entered no matter how long you sit and wait. 20 seconds 20 hours, it will stay the same while in the hanger, tho for others it is changing as they enter the hanger, but for you it does not show visible changes.

SlapShot · « **Reply #28 on:** June 28, 2004, 03:20:04 PM »

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Originally posted by devil22
im not here to run damage control for what i say or do. all i want is an equal chance to fly perk planes, but with the system that is in place currently, i can not. and again it is not from a lack of trying. the rank system to me is just a snide way for others to say "I am the best there is because I am ranked X out of X players. You can never beat me because you are ranked X out of X players, and you are ranked far below me." I choose not to play the rank game either. but every time i see a player land 4, 6 ,8, 10, 19 kills in a 262 the first bloody thing i do is look at their rank, and what do i see, 900 or better, usually avereageing 200 or better. that simple, that painful, that bad.

No damage control needed. You are saying things that are not correct and believe it or not, I am trying to help you understand so that it doesn't upset you.

I have a challenge for you.

You already have 2 captures in a GV.

1) Get 2 captures in a goon.

2) Take a Stuka with the 4000 Kg bomg to a fresh strat and drop that sucker right in the middle and land it.

I can almost guarantee that you will cut your rank in half which would bring you down into the "magic" numbers.

Now ... have those 2 things made you a better pilot than you are right now at 1589?

Could you then say in all honesty to guy that is ranked 1000 ... "I am a better pilot than you cause I am now ranked 759".

Rank only means something to those who play the rank game.

SlapShot · « **Reply #29 on:** June 28, 2004, 03:25:41 PM »

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Originally posted by devil22
if the cost changed as u sit and watch i wouldnt have a problem with it, but it does not change as you look at it. it stays fixed to where it was when you entered no matter how long you sit and wait. 20 seconds 20 hours, it will stay the same while in the hanger, tho for others it is changing as they enter the hanger, but for you it does not show visible changes.

Absolutly correct. The failing has been pointed out and the solution or "work around" is ...

1) go to the hanger and pick the plane immediatly and lauch the sortie.

2) If you hang around in the hanger, then you simply have to go out and come back in to get the new number.

Not so hard now that its been explained and something that we all will have to do unless HT can find it in his heart to implement the "refresh" button.