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Offline Lizking

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« Reply #120 on: July 12, 2004, 07:57:53 PM »
S!, it is a hard thing to do.  I think we are letting semantics get in the way, and there is no one way of managment, anyway.  So, did you say you have women in leadership positions, I don't remember.

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« Reply #121 on: July 12, 2004, 08:08:36 PM »
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« Reply #122 on: July 12, 2004, 08:24:46 PM »
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Hortlund that statement is ignorant on so many levels..  

 


Hear hear.

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« Reply #123 on: July 12, 2004, 08:34:00 PM »
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So Amway is illegal?  Go attend a meeting and see for yourself but If  I see your name in my printouts I'll boot you.

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« Reply #124 on: July 12, 2004, 08:40:24 PM »
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So Amway is illegal?  Go attend a meeting and see for yourself but If  I see your name in my printouts I'll boot you.


Boot him for what? Didnt you just invite him?  BTW why does your home business need meetings?

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« Reply #125 on: July 12, 2004, 08:43:19 PM »
Leadership is when people look to you for answers and you have them. Sex is irelevant.
It's mostly a question of style.  In the last seven years I worked under 11 managers crazily enough. The best two, one was a woman and one was a man.  Different styles both got the job done. The worst by far was a man.
Learning to fly, my best Instructors were women, no contest. Worst pilot I ever flew with was a woman so was the best pilot I ever flew with.

The problem I think sometimes with some women managers/leaders is that they were promoted because they were women. Seen it a couple of times. If often works but sometimes it's a mess.  

At one stage I controlled about 20 people in my area. I usually preferred women because quite frankly they worked harder and did a better job. Mostly they didn't need supervising. Men were trouble. Except one who was ex army (Irish Guards). You know, the guys in tall hats guarding the Queen in Buckingham palace.  He was superb, did an excellent job, obeyed orders.


You simply cannot generalise.

With me and my fiance, we go along with each other. She earns twice what I do, for now. I go along with most of what she says unless it important to me in some way. She usually defers to me then but not always.  Then we discuss animatedly!!!

My attitude is that you cannot expect someone, anyone. man or woman to accept something that you personally would find unacceptable. If you wouldn't like it to be done to you then you have no right to do it to someone else.

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« Reply #126 on: July 12, 2004, 08:46:09 PM »
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Boot him for what? Didnt you just invite him?  BTW why does your home business need meetings?


not to one of my meetings I didn't.  Mine doesn't have home meetings any longer most of the open opportunity meetings are held in hotel conference rooms but I'm far removed from all that now, however we do receive printouts of our non qualifing  downline organizations.

By the way what the illegal schemes are is a "Ponzi scheme".  The very best example of a Ponzi scheme is the Social Security Administration.  The Amway Sales and Marketing Plan is the industrys paradigm for legality and if a rival plan does not conform to the Amway model it is considered illegal.
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« Reply #127 on: July 12, 2004, 08:47:30 PM »
What do you do at these meetings?

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« Reply #128 on: July 12, 2004, 09:01:13 PM »
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What do you do at these meetings?

find one and see for yourself.

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« Reply #129 on: July 12, 2004, 09:09:09 PM »
I meant what is your role at these meeetings.

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« Reply #130 on: July 12, 2004, 09:10:03 PM »
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I meant what is your role at these meeetings.


I haven't done one since 1995

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« Reply #131 on: July 12, 2004, 09:14:16 PM »
Ok, but you can still say what your role was. Or maybe describe what your wife does if she now runs the meetings.

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« Reply #132 on: July 12, 2004, 09:16:47 PM »
who asked for hortulands opinion again?
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« Reply #133 on: July 12, 2004, 09:24:03 PM »
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Ok, but you can still say what your role was. Or maybe describe what your wife does if she now runs the meetings.

We presented the opportunity by explaining the business model through visual aids and anecdotes.

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« Reply #134 on: July 12, 2004, 10:34:44 PM »
Hi. New here. Noticed that a post on my blog had been quoted here so I thought I'd toss in a couple of comments.

Storch, you mention Bonus Checks. Those are virtually worthless. Ask for a copy of a Schedule C tax return. This shows a profit/loss and is a better  indication of Net income. A copy of a check means nothing without showing what was spent to get that check.

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Be prepared to work your arse off for one year expecting zero financial results.


By Quixtar's own admission (see my linked post) on the SA-4400, many can expect a loss in the first few years of operation, which is different than a zero gain in one year. In fact, there are many tax cases pointing out that many IBOs generally lose money year after year so that their business doesn't even qualify for tax write-offs.

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If you can help fifteen people attain an income level that they are comfortable with you will never need to balance your checkbook again.


The truth of that statement is debatable. You wouldn't be making any generalized income claims would you? Did you get Ken McDonald's recent email reminding all IBOs of the rules? Actually, there is compelling evidence that even those at the Diamond level must work extremely hard AND supplement their Quixtar bonuse money with Motivational (aka Tool money) in order to come close to the lifestyle you describe.

By the way, what group are you in? If you've already revealed that then I apologize for missing it. Also, I should let you know that I'm forwarding a copy of your income comments to the Quixtar Rules Administration at qbcr.department@quixtar.com . There is no malice intended at all but I feel I should let you know exactly what I'm doing and I'm sure that if you're in compliance you have nothing to worry about.