My take on female leadership

[xrtoronto]

Originally posted by GScholz
Hortlund, Sweden's answer to Lazs! (only without the guns)

 it's so true

[storch]

Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Amazing. I remember hearing nearly the same thing from one of those silly Taliban spokesmen around the time of the war... I feel sorry for your wife or daughters if you are instructing them to "submit to her place."

Maybe you could explain exactly what that means to you...

find one that is willing to try you out.  take notes.  report.  go back for seconds.  take more notes.  report.

Don't worry about my wife or daughters.  they are quite secure in their respective places and with their responsibilities as we all should be.

thank you for your concern.

[GRUNHERZ]

What does "submit to her place" mean to you?

You seem proud to broadcast your beliefs, why not share them in more detail?

[hawker238]

I would like to hear more.

[storch]

Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
What does "submit to her place" mean to you?

You seem proud to broadcast your beliefs, why not share them in more detail?

sure does.  as the man I'm the head of my house.  I defend and provide for my family.  My wife, as a good woman is submissive to me and my needs as much as I am to her and her needs.

when you get married, IF you are ever able to get married you may very well want to have a wife that understands the difference in the roles we must each play in life.

I'm in my 28th year of marriage to the same woman.  very few people can make that claim.  Our marriage is the result of a relationship that was first built upon mutual physical attraction and love.  Then it was further built upon mutual respect, admiration and consideration.  Part of that respect is that she knows her place and her role and I know mine.  we have overcome many challenges together and I for my part have never once seriously considered abandoning my relationship with my wife.  while I can't speak for her I'm fairly sure she feels the same or she wouldn't be here with me still.

This is what it is supposed to be.  It was quite common not long ago.  Sadly changing social values and moral relativism have impacted the institution of marriage for the worse.

I have many friends who are on their second or third marriages.  I am so thankful that I don't have their problems of composite families and geographically as well emotionally distant children.  I can categorically tell you that if they had taken the time early in the relationship and explained to their mates what they expected of them and of the relationship, many, many, many times and also taken the time to understand what was important to their mates they would all be together still.  That takes much patience and work, figuring out each other's love language, especially when women may be quick to nag and complain but at least in my experience never really give you any easy clue as to what they really want or mean.  You have to be perceptive while at the same time not allow her to totally take over and start to infringe upon what I consider are my prerogatives within the relationship.  Otherwise you end up a henpecked whimp.  given my personality that would have never happened, my ego won't permit that.  it just would have been a divorce.

But people generally don't do that do we?  We are all to wrapped up in it's "all about me" when actually we should be concerned with others.  It's really all about others.

Here's a little life secret.  If you want to have a friend, just one mind you.  Be a friend first.  I wanted to be my wife's best friend so I became that, her friend.  What option do you think that left her?  I applied the same principle with many people as I have made my way through life and you know what it has worked very well for me.  That principle is universal.

You may read more about this principle in Matthew Chapter 5.  apply it in all your relationships and see if it doesn't work.

Is that enough detail there young person?

[Tumor]

Originally posted by storch
sure does.  as the man I'm the head of my house.  I defend and provide for my family.  My wife, as a good woman is submissive to me and my needs as much as I am to her and her needs.

when you get married, IF you are ever able to get married you may very well want to have a wife that understands the difference in the roles we must each play in life.

I'm in my 28th year of marriage to the same woman.  very few people can make that claim.  Our marriage is the result of a relationship that was first built upon mutual physical attraction and love.  Then it was further built upon mutual respect, admiration and consideration.  Part of that respect is that she knows her place and her role and I know mine.  we have overcome many challenges together and I for my part have never once seriously considered abandoning my relationship with my wife.  while I can't speak for her I'm fairly sure she feels the same or she wouldn't be here with me still.

This is what it is supposed to be.  It was quite common not long ago.  Sadly changing social values and moral relativism have impacted the institution of marriage for the worse.

I have many friends who are on their second or third marriages.  I am so thankful that I don't have their problems of composite families and geographically as well emotionally distant children.  I can categorically tell you that if they had taken the time early in the relationship and explained to their mates what they expected of them and of the relationship, many, many, many times and also taken the time to understand what was important to their mates they would all be together still.  That takes much patience and work, figuring out each other's love language, especially when women may be quick to nag and complain but at least in my experience never really give you any easy clue as to what they really want or mean.  You have to be perceptive while at the same time not allow her to totally take over and start to infringe upon what I consider are my prerogatives within the relationship.  Otherwise you end up a henpecked whimp.  given my personality that would have never happened, my ego won't permit that.  it just would have been a divorce.

But people generally don't do that do we?  We are all to wrapped up in it's "all about me" when actually we should be concerned with others.  It's really all about others.

Here's a little life secret.  If you want to have a friend, just one mind you.  Be a friend first.  I wanted to be my wife's best friend so I became that, her friend.  What option do you think that left her?  I applied the same principle with many people as I have made my way through life and you know what it has worked very well for me.  That principle is universal.

You may read more about this principle in Matthew Chapter 5.  apply it in all your relationships and see if it doesn't work.

Is that enough detail there young person?

So... she's really the one who runs things, right?

[Sixpence]

Where are my hipboots?

[Hortlund]

Originally posted by Lizking
I meant you, Hortland.

LOL worked with me have you?

I was assuming that you made a general observation...my misstake.

[GODO]

Women are very good leaders. But I dont live in Sweden...
Five women work for me, and the determination and leadership of two of them is admirable, the other 3 doesnt need these skills for their functions.

[Nilsen]

What has happened Hortlund? Did you grope your boss and get upset when she didnt like it?

[CyranoAH]

She kicked the borg collective's bellybutton (which, now that I think of it, were also lead by a woman, go figure!)

Daniel

[_Schadenfreude_]

Originally posted by Hortlund
Well, lets hear it grun.

I have worked alot with women, in several different types of work-environments like sales, law, management, economics, support. I have seen them in stress-environments and in more relaxed office-environments. I have had them as superiors and subordinates
and I have not once had a good experience (professionally) with any one of them. Like I said in my post they have an eerie talent for scheming BS. And they have an uncanny ability to create conflicts around them in a way I have never seen guys do. Naturally I have met guys who were *******s too, but that was on a completely different level.

You tell me what your experience is now please. You brought it up. School and what? And what kind of work in school did you do? School projects?

Come on now, lets hear where you have gotten your insights on this topic.

Ever think that maybe, just maybe it's you that's the problem rather than ALL those women you've worked with?

[Staga]

Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
Ever think that maybe, just maybe it's you that's the problem rather than ALL those women you've worked with?

Yep. I wonder what kind of marriage will he have or is having

[Hortlund]

Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
Ever think that maybe, just maybe it's you that's the problem rather than ALL those women you've worked with?

Yeah, I lay awake at night thinking that the female inability to work in groups is somehow my fault.

For example, that work I was talking about where there were 13 females and 3 guys and the ladies immideately started forming fractions who spent 95% of their time scheming against eachother...clearly my fault.

[storch]

Originally posted by Tumor
So... she's really the one who runs things, right?

I don't step into the kitchen alot and am a firm believer in the adage that "if mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy".  Yessir she has her way.  But she has it sweetly, with feminine charm.