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« Reply #75 on: July 14, 2004, 12:56:50 AM »
Texas laws have you guys signing your tickets?
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« Reply #76 on: July 14, 2004, 01:08:48 AM »
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Texas laws have you guys signing your tickets?


Have for as long as I can remember. Not an admission of guilt though.
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« Reply #77 on: July 14, 2004, 02:49:25 AM »
The ticket is a court summons. Signing is a promise to appear before the judge. Don't sign and you go straight to jail and wait for trial.
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Re: Speeding Ticket Question..
« Reply #78 on: July 14, 2004, 04:58:20 AM »
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Should I be grateful that a cop wrote me up for a 51 in a 45, because he forgave me for going "88". He says if I contest he will remove his previous citation and give the 88 as evidence. I mean... this doesn't make sense.

I know I was speeding, and I think I should be grateful for him giving me a 51 in a 45.. but hell... that means he really doesn't know how fast I was going, or does he?

Any advice?

-BM


If he wrote 51 on the ticket he ABSOLUTLY CANNOT go into court and change the speed. Thats perjury. On a case like this ask to see the radar readout, by law the officer has to show you . I would say hire a lawyer and fight it to keep points off. Was this a local officer or a state trooper? It also sounds like they have a quota system

As far as jammers go any radar jammer that TRANSMITS radar signals is illleagle. There are some that dont "transmit" that are effective when used properly. Just like radar detectors, if used correctly they will save your butt. Most people dont know how to use these devices and get nailed.
There is only one type of laser jammer I have seen to be effective and its only effective facing front while the officer is "shooting" you as you approch
« Last Edit: July 14, 2004, 05:19:37 AM by WilldCrd »
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« Reply #79 on: July 14, 2004, 08:50:18 AM »
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I always thought if you ask to see the radar gun, they must show you what you were doing... otherwise the ticket is dismissed in court.??


This is not true where I live.

All they need to have on hand is the calibration for that day. They do have to calibrate it very often, and if they don't have proof then it can be dismissed.

Also since he Pace clocked me, he has to take the vehicle he's using for a speedometer calibration check. So.. now if he were to come to court in a different cruiser, and show the calibration for that car he came in, it will not be valid because its a different car.

I don't know if they swap cars that often, but if they do, thats a plus.

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If he wrote 51 on the ticket he ABSOLUTLY CANNOT go into court and change the speed. Thats perjury. On a case like this ask to see the radar readout, by law the officer has to show you . I would say hire a lawyer and fight it to keep points off. Was this a local officer or a state trooper? It also sounds like they have a quota system


This is what my lawyer told me, because he can't just change numbers, now that he's in court.

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First, the officer gets overtime for the hours he's in court, so please please please take it to court. Please.


I've heard this also, and If it did make it to court, I would not plead on the grounds I wasn't speeding, but on the fact I have a good driving record, First speeding ticket, and if I can have the points removed.

But thats only if it goes to court. Where I live there are 2 hearings, first is with a warrant officer, and we can settle this out of court without the officer being present, this is where I can plea for no points, etc.. if they do not accept the offer then we goto court and ask the judge, and where a number of things can go wrong but not something to count on.

Anyhow thanks for the feedback

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« Reply #80 on: July 14, 2004, 09:15:07 AM »
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Well it is 2am.. and it was a highway.. 45 was a temp sign posted in a normaly 70 area...

I dunno.. I really think he has nothing.. but I'm just considering other opinions..

-BM


Something tells me this might have been a Construction Zone.  Temp. speed limits occur during these stretches.

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« Reply #81 on: July 15, 2004, 12:40:43 AM »
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Radar Jammers, regulated by the FCC, are illegal.

Laser Jammers, regulated by the FDA, are legal, but expensive and probably not too good.

The evil thing that needs to be a felony is civilian MIRTs.



As the happy owner of a Bel LaserPro I can say you're wrong (and they're not that expensive).

You know a cops being jammed when he constantly pings you with his laser THEN turns around the ping you on the bellybutton as you drive past (the Bel has front and rear coverage).

There are several good makes of Laser Jammers out there.

I recommend shopping here: http://www.radarbusters.com

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« Reply #82 on: July 15, 2004, 12:44:29 AM »
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Originally posted by WilldCrd As far as jammers go any radar jammer that TRANSMITS radar signals is illleagle. There are some that dont "transmit" that are effective when used properly. Just like radar detectors, if used correctly they will save your butt. Most people dont know how to use these devices and get nailed.
There is only one type of laser jammer I have seen to be effective and its only effective facing front while the officer is "shooting" you as you approch [/B]


Passaive Radar jammers are a total SCAM (Rocky Mountain Radar is usually the perputrator). They will not do anything to save your butt. If someone tries to sell you a radar jammer its either a hunk of plastic the beeps or an expensive device thats clearly illegal.

There are plenty of good laser jammer brands out there, Blinder, Escort, and Bel all have good kit.

A laser jammer is NOT reactive, it usually is an always-on unit.

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« Reply #83 on: July 15, 2004, 02:12:21 AM »
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Passaive Radar jammers are a total SCAM (Rocky Mountain Radar is usually the perputrator). They will not do anything to save your butt. If someone tries to sell you a radar jammer its either a hunk of plastic the beeps or an expensive device thats clearly illegal.

There are plenty of good laser jammer brands out there, Blinder, Escort, and Bel all have good kit.

A laser jammer is NOT reactive, it usually is an always-on unit.


I've seen some radar jammers that work.
Also I never said a laser jammer in NOT reactive. What I said was
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There is only one type of laser jammer I have seen to be effective and its only effective facing front while the officer is "shooting" you as you approch [/B]

Also FYI the closer you get to the laser the less effective your jamming is
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« Reply #84 on: July 15, 2004, 02:51:50 AM »
i use a Passport 8500...

works dammmmmmm fine...


best 280$ i ever spent on speeding

I have read lazer detecors are usless...Lazers are a very precise beam of light..once it hits you..and you detect it..its tooolate..

Sate of Califonia cannot afford to arm the CHP with them,,they use KA band..radar..


LOVE MY PASSPORT!!


they got a new Passport 8500 mei think its called..it can detect what they callno.."flash radar"..it vcan  detect the radar that just turns off and on very quickly..

I will never speed again with out my detector

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« Reply #85 on: July 15, 2004, 04:04:39 AM »
here's a tip let a car going about same speed get about 1/4 to 1/2 mile ahead. When he gets shot you'll know and slow down before you get shot too.
Truckers call it bearbait
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« Reply #86 on: July 15, 2004, 09:57:16 AM »
The ONLY radar detector to get is the Valentine One.  It cold ***** both the Passport and Escort annually.

Btw, I've been doing some thinking.  I believe you were speeding in a Construction Zone, if there was a Temp. Speed Limit.   Why am I saying this?  A lawyer won't be able to do anything for you, if it was in a Construcion Zone.  

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« Reply #87 on: July 15, 2004, 02:28:44 PM »
I can't imagine trying to fight something that I know I did wrong. Point blank... I don't get it. Whether you can succeed or not is irrelivent. It seems no one wants to take personal responsibility for their actions anymore. Everyone wants to sue someone or fight it out in court.

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« Reply #88 on: July 15, 2004, 03:24:39 PM »
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I've seen some radar jammers that work.
Also I never said a laser jammer in NOT reactive. What I said was
 
Also FYI the closer you get to the laser the less effective your jamming is


Well, fwiw, my Bel is front/rear facing,the Escort is the same, and the Blinder can be fitted to the rear.

Masherbrum in Ka band tests the Bel and Escort do better than the V1 (in NZ police are exclusively Ka or Laser now). The only thing the V1 gives you is a directional indicator, and for the price difference I don't think its worth it.

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« Reply #89 on: July 15, 2004, 03:26:40 PM »
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they got a new Passport 8500 mei think its called..it can detect what they callno.."flash radar"..it vcan  detect the radar that just turns off and on very quickly..

I will never speed again with out my detector


The new mode is POP mode, but they're not allowed to use it to ticket it you with. Most of the Bels, Escorts, and Valentines already detect it (I know my old 985 does).