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Re: Christians can sure be jerks
« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2004, 12:56:42 PM »
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There are some who won't be happy until this country is the Christian equivalent of Iran or Afghanistan under Taliban rule.  You know how you boil a frog, right?  Degree by degree, the religious types are turning up the burner.


Where does it say they are christian?

Who's turning up the burner again?   An atheist giving an invocation - ridiculous.

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« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2004, 01:03:46 PM »
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I once had frog legs. They were delicious. Lightly fried in a seasoned butter mix that gave them the texture of a fried soft shell crab. Speaking of soft shell crabs, man, they are awesome. Nothing like a fried Maryland blue soft shell crab sandwich, tastes great and don't have to bother with taking the shell off. Oh, and crab cake sandwiches made from freshly caught Maryland blues - that **** bought in the store tastes like newspaper after you've made your own and eaten them. Delicious.
-SW


I've had alligator while in Baton Rouge.  It, too, was delicious.  And I must concure with the well-heeled palat of Mister SW when he waxes so eloquently on the virtues of Maryland soft shell crabs.

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« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2004, 01:03:52 PM »
So now Chairboy is fighting for the atheist's right to lead a public prayer.


Interesting.

We need gays in Boy Scouts and atheists in church.

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« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2004, 01:04:42 PM »
Thats just stupid. Im a Christian and what i say: Let the guy say the invocation, its not like it will spoil your faith for the rest of your life.  Get over it.  what people will do for attention these days...:rolleyes:
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« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2004, 01:07:41 PM »
First, I really don't think a government meeting should begin with a prayer, but if that's the tradition, then the same respect should be given to all groups to avoid showing religious favoritism.

Would those of you disagree with me be as quick to praise a christian who walked out in protest during a Jewish prayer?
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« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2004, 01:08:55 PM »
Atheists are like gays and feminists. It's not enough that you leave them alone and let them believe and do what they want.

They have to be in your face and thay have to force you to watch.

Tolerance is not good enough, they demand acceptance and full approval.


Why on Earth would an atheist be interested in delivering an invokation?

To stick it to the rest of of course and manifest his beliefs.

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« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2004, 01:09:46 PM »
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So now Chairboy is fighting for the atheist's right to lead a public prayer.  


And somehow this equates to a christian offensive.  :confused: :rofl

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« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2004, 01:11:58 PM »
They were simply protesting (which is their right if not responsibility) the manipulation of a long standing tradition. When a person can't stand up publicly for what they believe in then our freedom is imaginary.
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« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2004, 01:12:01 PM »
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Why on Earth would an atheist be interested in delivering an invokation?

To stick it to the rest of of course and manifest his beliefs.

He was invited by another council member.  From what I read he was doing it because he was asked, not because he wanted to.  Now, there is definately more to the story than I understand, and he very well may want to stick it to Christians for all I know though.

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« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2004, 01:14:09 PM »
I'm assuming that it was an effort to remove "God" from the traditional invocation. I could be wrong. Would like to see the transcript of this invocation.
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« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2004, 01:14:47 PM »
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.Would those of you disagree with me be as quick to praise a christian who walked out in protest during a Jewish prayer?


Again, how do you know these guys were christians?  I detect... prejudice.

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First, I really don't think a government meeting should begin with a prayer, but if that's the tradition, then the same respect should be given to all groups to avoid showing religious favoritism

It shouldn't be an "official" part of the meeting.  But being in government doesn't mean people have to give up their faith.  If the members of the council agree to have a prayer that's their business.  

Assuming they are going to have a prayer (a request to a divine being), is it not completely ridiculous to have the prayer led by someone who does not believe in a divine being?  I think the actions of the two guys who walked were perfectly reasonable in that light.  More power to them.
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« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2004, 01:19:33 PM »
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They were simply protesting (which is their right if not responsibility) the manipulation of a long standing tradition. When a person can't stand up publicly for what they believe in then our freedom is imaginary.


Hear hear!

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« Reply #27 on: July 30, 2004, 01:28:31 PM »
if he didn't believe in God, who or what did he "invoke"?

I'd walked out too ..
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« Reply #28 on: July 30, 2004, 01:29:37 PM »
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I think the actions of the two guys who walked were perfectly reasonable in that light.  More power to them.



It was an act of drama.  American adults should be more tolerant.  IMHO  they acted like a coupla premadonas.
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« Reply #29 on: July 30, 2004, 01:30:07 PM »
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Again, how do you know these guys were christians?  I detect... prejudice.


I'm betting Chairboy is googling those that walked out to see what church/synagogue/mosque they attend. ;)
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