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Offline 1K0N

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The Kerry's outsourcing overseas
« on: August 02, 2004, 10:19:11 AM »
Our Dem candidate is creating jobs just like he stated in his speach......Just not in the USA....

HEINZ WATTIE'S AUSTRALASIA - Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
     HEINZ SINGAPORE PTE. LTD. - Republic of Singapore
     HEINZ WATTIE'S LIMITED - Auckland, New Zealand
     HEINZ JAPAN LTD - Tokyo, Japan
     HEINZ-UFE LTD. - Guangzhou, People's Republic of China
     HEINZ COSCO - Qingdao, People's Republic of China
     HEINZ KOREA LTD. - Inchon, South Korea
     HEINZ WIN CHANCE LTD. - Bangkok, Thailand
     HEINZ INDIA PRIVATE LIMITED - Mumbai, India
     PT HEINZ ABC INDONESIA - Jakarta, Indonesia
     PT HEINZ SUPRAMA - Surabaya, Indonesia
     HEINZ UFC PHILIPPINES - Manila, the Philippines
     HEINZ HONG KONG LIMITED - Wanchai, Hong Kong
     H. J. HEINZ (Botswana) (Proprietary) LTD. - Gaborone, Botswana
     KGALAGADI SOAP INDUSTRIES (Pty) LTD. - Gaborone, Botswana
     REFINED OIL PRODUCTS (Pty) LTD. - Gaborone, Botswana
     OLIVINE INDUSTRIES (Private) LIMITED - Harare, Zimbabwe
     CHEGUTU CANNERS (Pvt) LTD. - Chegutu, Zimbabwe
     HEINZ SOUTH AFRICA (PTY) LTD. - Johannesburg, South Africa
     HEINZ WELLINGTON'S (PTY) LTD. - Wellington, South Africa
     HEINZ EUROPE - Hayes, Middlesex, England
     H. J. HEINZ COMPANY LIMITED - Hayes Park, Hayes, Middlesex, England
     H. J. HEINZ COMPANY LIMITED - Rovereto, Italy
     H. J. HEINZ COMPANY LIMITED - Telford, England
     JOHN WEST FOODS LIMITED - Liverpool, England
     H. J. HEINZ FROZEN & CHILLED FOODS LIMITED - Hayes, Middlesex, England
     H. J. HEINZ COMPANY (IRELAND) LIMITED - Dublin, Ireland
     H.J. HEINZ COMPANY OF CANADA LTD - North York, Ontario, Canada
     OMSTEAD FOODS LIMITED - Wheatley, Ontario, Canada
     ALIMENTOS HEINZ C.A. - Caracas, Venezuela
     DISTRIBUIDORA BANQUETE, S.A. - San José, Costa Rica
     HEINZ ITALIA S.r.l. - Milan, Italy
     FATTORIA SCALDASOLE, S.p.a. - Monguzzo, Italy
     COPAIS FOOD AND BEVERAGE COMPANY, S.A. - Athens, Greece
     HEINZ POLSKA Sp. Z.O.O. - Warsaw, Poland
     PUDLISZKI S.A. - Pudliszki, Poland
     WODZISLAW, S.A. - Wodzislaw, Poland
     ETS. PAULET S.A. - Douarnenez, France
     H. J. HEINZ FROZEN S.A.R.L. - Paris, France
     HEINZ IBERICA S.A. - Madrid, Spain
     IDAL (Industrias de Alimentacã, Lda.) - Lisbon, Portugal
     MIEDZYCHOD S.A. - Miedzychod, Poland
     HEINZ C.I.S. - Moscow, Russia
     HEINZ GEORGIEVSK - Georgievsk, Russia
     CAIRO FOOD INDUSTRIES SAE - Cairo, Egypt
     HEINZ REMEDIA LIMITED - Tel Aviv, Israel
     STAR-KIST FOOD DÂ'OR LIMITED - Haifa, Israel
     H. J. HEINZ GMBH - Dí² í³¥ldorf, Germany
     SONNEN BASSERMANN - Seesen, Germany
     KONINKLIJKE DE RUIJTER BV - The Netherlands
     HAK BV - The Netherlands
     FOODMARK - The Netherlands
     HONIG MERKARTIKELEN BV - The Netherlands
     DRUKKERIJ DE GROENBOER - The Netherlands
     H. J. HEINZ B.V . - Elst, The Netherlands
     H. J. HEINZ BELGIUM S.A. - Brussels, Belgium
     SERV-A-PORTION - Turnhout, Belgium
     Arimpex Industrie Alimentari S.R.L. - Rovereto, Italy
     Comexo S.A. - Chateaurenard, France
     HEINZ EUROPE - UK and IRELAND - Factories: Chorley, Fakenham, Grimsby,
     Kendal, Kitt Green, Leaminton, Luton, Okehampton, Telford, Westwick
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« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2004, 10:25:07 AM »
Yo, ignorant person. Neither Kerry or wife have day to day control of Heinz--and as an addendum, most of those charters are company subsidiaries. Notice all the foreign words?

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« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2004, 10:31:01 AM »
Wtf?

Having a ketchup distribution operation, in say, Britain... and owning a bottling company in Italy does not equate to outsourcing.

And focusing on the wifey's company has what to do with Kerry's role wrt to its business?

'Nuther lame, lame try... Unless you wanna flesh this out a bit.
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« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2004, 10:35:55 AM »
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Originally posted by Nash

'Nuther lame, lame try... Unless you wanna flesh this out a bit.


Its been done, but not from a particularly US company.

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=125643&referrerid=3203


Good read.
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« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2004, 10:42:23 AM »
Rip - what does this list and that post have to do with eachother?

I heard Bush robbed a bank.

To demonstrate that, here is a link to information about how robbing banks is against the law.
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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2004, 10:43:39 AM »
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Rip - what does this list and that post have to do with eachother?

I heard Bush robbed a bank.

To demonstrate that, here is a link to information about how robbing banks is against the law.


"o-u-t-s-o-u-r-c-i-n-g"
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« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2004, 10:46:43 AM »
k-e-r-r-y

Read the top of this post again, read your link, then provide some relationship between the two.
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« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2004, 10:56:15 AM »
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k-e-r-r-y

Read the top of this post again, read your link, then provide some relationship between the two.



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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Its been done, but not from a particularly US company.


Good read.


If you can't see the parallel, then I'm not the one that can point it out to you.
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Offline Nash

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« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2004, 11:04:20 AM »
When I said "flesh this out", I didn't mean give me some explanation on outsourcing. I meant explain the relationship between outsourcing and the list this that was posted here.

That's all...

I don't want some guy's opinion on outsouring from another thread, unless it talks about the claim of Kerry's dubious role in the Heinz corp's alleged outsourcing.
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Offline Toad

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« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2004, 11:15:20 AM »
This "outsourcing/keep good jobs in America" stuff is BS from both parties. You can't espouse "free trade" and "protectionism" at the same time. Well, not if you're honest, anyway, so there you go.

But then, politicians build successful careers on dishonesty don't they? And they have an electorate to lazy to educate themselves to work with.

Does Heinz "outsource"? Absolutely. Does Mz. Kerry have influence with Heinz? Absolutely. Does Mz. Kerry appear on the platform with Mr. Kerry. Absolutely. Will any of this stop Heinz outsourcing? Absolutely not.

Bottom line though is that it doesn't matter.
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« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2004, 11:25:49 AM »
Yeah.... Kerry woke his wife up in the middle of the night with an incredible thought: "Instead of shipping tomatos all the way to Europe, why doesn't Heinz just buy an Italian tomato farm!!!"

"Hmm.... I don't know... Do you think it will work?"

"It's just crazy enough - it might."

A bunch of backroom deals are made et voila! KERRY CREATED TEH EVIL KETCHUP OUTSOURCING!"
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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2004, 11:30:31 AM »
You miss both points.

It's amusing that Kerry blames Bush for outsourcing while his apparent bedmate is so intimately involved with an "outsourcing" company/empire.

OTOH, just about ALL major US countries outsource, will continue to outsource, probably HAVE to outsource to remain viable so it doesn't matter in the least.

Unless we get that protectionism going to help boost free trade here, of course.
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« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2004, 11:38:18 AM »
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It's amusing that Kerry blames Bush for outsourcing while his apparent bedmate is so intimately involved with an "outsourcing" company/empire.  


And I'm disputing that there is ANY "intimacy" involved with his wife and the day to day operations of the Heinz corporation. She chairs a TRUST and a FOUNDATION and is not a member of the Heinz corporation board itself, ergo she has nothing to do with companies' outsourcing or lack thereof. She merely inherited incredible wealth.

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« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2004, 11:46:00 AM »
As you like.

I think most view Terry Kerry and Heinz as "linked at the hip". Either way, she's an heiress that derives her income and importance from an "outsourcing" US company while her hubby decries that sort of company from the stage.

It's an inconsistency.


However, as I said, I think this whole "outsourcing" thing is beyond reality as an election issue when coupled with the "free trade" issue.

I can't believe people fall for it, actually.

Well, OK... I can believe it.
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« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2004, 11:50:00 AM »
I think the whole thing will move towards something to be known as "free-ish" trade. :D
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