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Offline rpm

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« on: August 06, 2004, 02:53:00 PM »
Sorry Neo's. Even Dubya is backing away from this failed hack job.

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=politicsNews&storyID=5899870

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BOSTON (Reuters) - John Kerry's commanding officer in Vietnam has backed away from attacks on the Democratic presidential candidate, saying he made a mistake in accusing the U.S. senator of having lied about his wartime record.
George Elliott, who was one of Kerry's superiors in Vietnam when he was awarded medals for heroic actions, had signed an affidavit suggesting Kerry did not deserve the Silver Star.

In the document, Elliott said, "I was never informed that he had simply shot a wounded, fleeing Viet Cong in the back."

But in Friday's Boston Globe, Elliott said: "It was a terrible mistake probably for me to sign the affidavit with those words. I'm the one in trouble here."

Elliott told the newspaper he thinks Kerry did deserve the medal.

"I still don't think he (Kerry) shot the guy in the back," Elliott is quoted as saying in the Globe.

Kerry used his nominating convention in Boston in July to paint himself as a decorated war hero capable of leading the nation in troubled times and a man better qualified to be commander-in-chief than President Bush.

But Elliott and other members of a group called Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, oppose Kerry.

This week they launched a television advertisement accusing the Democrat of having lied about his service in Vietnam and hurting other veterans by criticizing the war after returning home. Next week the group will publish a book, "Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry."

Elliott was not immediately available for comment.

Kerry, arguing his combat experience in Vietnam qualifies him as a strong leader on national security issues, has surrounded himself with other veterans who have said the candidate did heroic deeds to save his own crew mates.

The new attacks on Kerry sparked an angry response from Republican Sen. John McCain, also a Vietnam veteran, who called the attack dishonorable and dishonest and urged the Bush administration to also denounce the ad.

The administration distanced itself from the advertisement on Thursday but did not condemn it.

"We have not and we will not question Sen. Kerry's service in Vietnam," said White House spokesman Scott McClellan.
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« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2004, 02:54:18 PM »
This was already posted by Virgil



You use Neo Con to much.

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« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2004, 02:54:53 PM »
So this guy is just like Kerry in the end.
"I signed the affidavit before I didn't sign it"

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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2004, 02:56:03 PM »
lying to senate is a "hack job"? all but one of your fellow oics saying you are worthless is a "hack job"? who welded the rose tint glasses to your tiny little head?

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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2004, 02:57:23 PM »
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
This was already posted by Virgil



You use Neo Con to much.

I don't see the thread, sorry.
 
I shortened it to Neo's for ya. What more do ya want?;)
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« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2004, 02:57:35 PM »
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So this guy is just like Kerry in the end.
"I signed the affidavit before I didn't sign it"

:D

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« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2004, 03:01:16 PM »
In today's political environment, it pays to look at the source.  The author of that article has a few ties to Kerry, including being his biographer, riding the Kerry Campaign bus, and is the author of the New book, Kerry/Edwards, that lays out their plan of action.  The named CO, Elliot has already announced that the article is not true and has reaffirmed his affadavit.

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« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2004, 03:08:11 PM »
As in the case of the Silver Star, it was Elliott who recommended
Kerry for the Bronze Star. According to the recommendation signed by
Elliott, a mine exploded under a boat accompanying Kerry's craft.

''Almost simultaneously, another mine detonated close aboard [Kerry's]
PCF-94, knocking First Lieutenant Rassman [sic] into the water and
wounding Lt. JG Kerry in the right arm."

Elliott then described how Kerry ''managed to pull Lt. Rassman aboard
despite the painful wound in his right arm." Elliott concluded that
Kerry had been ''calm, professional, and highly courageous in the face
of enemy fire."

Elliott, in the interview yesterday, said that based on the affidavits
of the veterans on other boats, he now thinks his assessment about the
Bronze Star and third Purple Heart may have been based on poor
information.

In one affidavit, for example, Van O'Dell, who said he had been in a
boat near Kerry on that day, declared that Kerry had ''lied" about
what happened on that day and said that Rassmann was not under enemy
fire when Kerry pulled him aboard.

Elliott, asked about the contradiction between his recommendation and
his new questioning of Kerry's third Purple Heart, responded, ''It
makes me look kind of silly, to be perfectly honest."

But he said: ''I simply have no reason for these guys to be lying, and
if they are lying in concert, it is one hell of a conspiracy. So, on
the basis of all of the information that has come out, I have chosen
to believe the other men. I absolutely do not know first hand."

Naval documents said that Kerry ''received shrapnel wounds in left
buttocks and contusions on right forearm when a mine detonated close
to PCF 94 while engaged in operations on river. Condition and
prognosis excellent. Result of hostile action."

Rassmann, reached by telephone yesterday, said he has never had any
question that Kerry deserved the Purple Heart. He said there were two
separate events: One was earlier in the day, when he and Kerry blew up
a rice cache, and the explosion caused some of the rice to hit Kerry,
and perhaps some weapon fragments as well. The second involved a mine
explosion as Kerry and Rassmann were on patrol. The explosion,
Rassmann said, knocked him overboard and threw Kerry against the pilot
house, injuring his arm.

Rassmann said that he has always believed that Kerry got the third
Purple Heart solely for the injury to his arm as a result of the
explosion in the water.

''If he got fragments in the buttocks due to the mine, that is new
information to me," Rassmann said.

''I would say there is confusion. Maybe they did lump it together. It
was my understanding he got it for the wound being thrown across the
pilot house."

Either way, Rassmann said, Kerry deserved the third Purple Heart
because such awards are given for injuries incurred in combat, and
Kerry's arm injury qualified. He also stood by his recollection that
he was under fire when rescued by Kerry.

wound from "rice in the face"? give the tard another medal pls ..

"under fire" "not under fire"

purple heart for a bruised foream or sharpnel in his butt??

don't you think the guy he pulled out of the water "under fire" would remember his his bud had taken a shot in the arse??

think it'd been something to laugh about if nothing else ...

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« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2004, 03:10:37 PM »
wait a lefty liberal media outlet jumped the gun a big story? well ive never heard of that happening before. whats next al gore demanding fifty one recounts of all ss awarded in vn? :)

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« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2004, 03:18:17 PM »
What happens here is the Kerry folks get one of their press buddies to release a an inaccurate story of Elliot recanting, Elliot then comes out and says he never did and ends up looking like a dumb arse stumbling over himself.

This damages Elliot's creditability and diffuses the impact his statements may have made in harming Kerry.

It is just damage control by the left to defend their boy. Its only news to those trads on the left that will run crying "He' s liar"....

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« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2004, 03:20:17 PM »
I suppose none of you noticed Bush has back away from the ad? You know something he does'nt?
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« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2004, 03:20:51 PM »
Yeah, Bush has never said anything about his service, why start now.

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« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2004, 03:23:12 PM »
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I suppose none of you noticed Bush has back away from the ad? You know something he does'nt?


bush was never near the add. how do you back away from something you were never close to in the first place. next youre gonna say im backing away from hawaii when i cross the street heading east to go get groceries.

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« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2004, 03:24:19 PM »
"bush was never near the add. how do you back away from something you were never close to in the first place."

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