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Offline _Schadenfreude_

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« Reply #30 on: August 19, 2004, 02:56:37 PM »
After the first day I found it doesn't seem to effect me - mostly fly planes with eny of 20 or higher so no big deal really....

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« Reply #31 on: August 19, 2004, 03:02:42 PM »
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So why not jump to Knits and fly it?


Okay, honest, reasonable questions here.

Why should HE have to?

To make YOU happy?

Is that REALLY fair?

Is the happiness of one loyal customer of any higher value than that of another equally loyal customer?

I'm being absolutely serious here, it isn't a whine, or a complaint.

I honestly want to know if people really think it is fair to force, coerce, or otherwise practically require some customers to change the way they play to make others happy?

Is it really fair to force another customer to change how he plays when he spends the same $15 as you?
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« Reply #32 on: August 19, 2004, 03:18:27 PM »
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Okay, honest, reasonable questions here.

Why should HE have to?

To make YOU happy?

Is that REALLY fair?

Is the happiness of one loyal customer of any higher value than that of another equally loyal customer?

I'm being absolutely serious here, it isn't a whine, or a complaint.

I honestly want to know if people really think it is fair to force, coerce, or otherwise practically require some customers to change the way they play to make others happy?

Is it really fair to force another customer to change how he plays when he spends the same $15 as you?


If your not going to place an outright control on the #'s then you need another method to help achieve balance in the Arena. The 'plane restrictor' does that to a degree. It is a question of balance & fairness to the WHOLE arena. After flying for the 1st time last night (happened to be ROOK) I think it's a great idea. As I've said elsewhere it has really no effect on score or performance, pilot ability still 80%+ of the equation.

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« Reply #33 on: August 19, 2004, 03:27:54 PM »
Virgil: To quote spoke, the needs of the many out way the needs of the few.

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« Reply #34 on: August 19, 2004, 03:32:20 PM »
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Is it really fair to force another customer to change how he plays when he spends the same $15 as you?


The changes affect everyone universally.  So long as you're on the side with numbers and fly a low ENY plane, you're going to face plane limitations.  

Unfair would mean applying these rule changes to just one side all the time without regard to the numbers on other teams.  As it is, you have the means available to you to fly whatever you like but choose otherwise.  That is not unfair.

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« Reply #35 on: August 19, 2004, 03:44:08 PM »
im sorry dipstick........:lol

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« Reply #36 on: August 19, 2004, 03:45:57 PM »
I dislike it _ a lot

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« Reply #37 on: August 19, 2004, 03:51:06 PM »
i havent found anything wrong but ENY disable havent even had a ram that people talk about.......oh yeah and i have been dying also thats another thing

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« Reply #38 on: August 19, 2004, 08:07:17 PM »
I extremely Dislike it!

Game tweaking leads to more game tweaking!

AH1 to AH2 - Towns were made bigger and harder requiring more cooperation.

Fuel Porkage - The natural Predator to the Steam-Roller,  eliminated.

Planetside style balancing to counteract all of the above now eliminates Resets.  The war IS over and no one can win.  >>Enter Quakebirds.

It should have been left alone from the beginning and the sides would have self balanced as they have done many times in the past.

Retro all of the above Please!

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« Reply #39 on: August 19, 2004, 11:10:07 PM »
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Virgil: To quote spoke, the needs of the many out way the needs of the few.


The new system is not a happy thing for me.
I don't like being limited to a certain plane set, or not being able to roll a panzer. When the ENY gets so off that I have to defend a base against tigers in an m8, can't bomb with a b17, or I cant roll a corsair off a cv at a base, or have to dogfight LA7's in a 35 ENY plane, then that seems to me to be a penalty, certianly not an incentive. Everyone keeps saying there was a problem with horading, well so what? Tell your friends to get on here and play for your country, or try to organize an offensive, wait a week or two and watch the numbers slide another way, as they always have. There was no problem, but now, there is IMO.
I still say leave it to the two weekers to balance the arena, when a two weeker signs in, send them to the weakest team. Tell them one of the benefits of subscribing is being able to fly any country, or to join a squad. Then you have INCENTIVE, not LIMITATION. If Someone wants to change countries, send them to lowest #'s. Limiting what planes I can fly cause So-and So's Squad is having their squad night, or cause I like to play early AM is Facism.

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« Reply #40 on: August 19, 2004, 11:25:10 PM »
Edit for profanity.
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« Reply #41 on: August 19, 2004, 11:51:11 PM »
So far, I have not logged, or switched sides or quit when planes are not available.  It is an annoance, frustrating, and lessens my enjoyment of this game.  It sounds like it will not be getting better any time soon.

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« Reply #42 on: August 20, 2004, 01:22:54 AM »
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Virgil: To quote spoke, the needs of the many out way the needs of the few.


they sure do:D  if you add up all the bishops and all the knights and compare it to the number of the rooks......well lets just say the needs of the many DID outweigh the needs of the few. seems a little one sided IMO

sorry im on my la7 withdraw rag or somejunk and stuff.:(

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« Reply #43 on: August 20, 2004, 02:31:34 AM »
Edit for flaiming
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« Reply #44 on: August 20, 2004, 02:50:01 AM »
NONE OF THE P38  DRIVERS IS HAPPY WITH IT