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[Dead Man Flying]

Originally posted by BUG_EAF322
i'm not going knits or rooks because some switch ***** scewd the numbers

Then quit complaining that HTC hasn't made early model P-38s for you to fly.  The solution to your dilemma sits right in front of your face -- changing sides -- and you refuse to do it.

That is your choice, and you'll just have to suffer the consequences because of it.

-- Todd/Leviathn

[twitchy]

Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
The solution to your dilemma sits right in front of your face -- changing sides -- and you refuse to do it.

levi some of us believe in loyalty, I have flown knights now for three and half years, and I enjoy flying with my 'friends'. Just because you like to switch around and have no sense of loyalty doesn't mean everybody else wants to. I have spent three years killing filthy bishrook, am not about to swell their ranks. The solution to this problem is to quit catering to BB whimpers. It has taken this game down, we can't pork fuel now because of them, fuel burn rate is totally ridiculous, and now our plane sets available are limited cause of crying about #'s. When does it stop? What's next, disabling ho shots?

[Dead Man Flying]

Originally posted by twitchy
levi some of us believe in loyalty, I have flown knights now for three and half years, and I enjoy flying with my 'friends'. Just because you like to switch around and have no sense of loyalty doesn't mean everybody else wants to.

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And thus you make a choice to continue flying for a side with enough of a numbers imbalance that the system disables your favorite plane.  But realize that it is, ultimately, your choice and nothing else.  Your immutable loyalty to a virtual social constuct is the problem here, not the side-balancing system.

Don't even try to paint side "loyalty" as some kind of moral issue.  Pathetic.

-- Todd/Leviathn

[Murdr]

Originally posted by BUG_EAF322
NONE OF THE P38  DRIVERS IS HAPPY WITH IT

Really? None?

[Murdr]

Originally posted by twitchy
levi some of us believe in loyalty, I have flown knights now for three and half years, and I enjoy flying with my 'friends'. Just because you like to switch around and have no sense of loyalty doesn't mean everybody else wants to.

If I remember correctly levi has been flying for going on 9 years.  No doubt he can enjoy flying with his 'friends' anywhere he flies.  That being the case I dont quite see where he has no sense of loyalty if he can fly with friends anywhere he goes.  I get the impression your sense of loyalty is not making new friends.

[BUG_EAF322]

Levi loves the spit and got many models to choose from.

u don't know what i'm talkin about

[Dead Man Flying]

Originally posted by BUG_EAF322
Levi loves the spit and got many models to choose from.

The Spit IX has a lower ENY than the Spit V I normally fly, and the Seafire has an ENY roughly the same.  So if the Spit V goes, I'm only left with the Spit I.  No thanks.

Instead, I'd go fly some other fun planes like the Tiffie, the 109F/G2, the 190A5/8, or maybe even tool around in a P-40 for awhile.  It's all good.  And if I felt a real need to fly the Spit V for some ungodly reason, I'd switch sides to do it.

So where is the problem here?  You're doing two things that fuel your angst.  First, you refuse to consider flying something other than a P-38.  Then you refuse to consider changing countries so you can fly it.  You ignore two perfectly fine options and then complain that HTC is being unreasonable?

-- Todd/Leviathn

[BUG_EAF322]

again i didn't asked for the system i didn't switch

and if i switch there is still the same danger.

i fly the p38 It my money to do that.

strangly the D9 even got an higher envy factor while it outpeforms the p38 in every aspect except turning.

but ill grab an A20 next time

[twitchy]

Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
Don't even try to paint side "loyalty" as some kind of moral issue.  Pathetic. [/B]

You don't seem to understand the fact that the countries in AH are more than icons, it represents a group. Friends. Countrymen. Loyalty to this group is natural, and the spirit of competition it invokes is perfectly natural. I have flown with these guys years, and most of my squad has flown with Knights for years. What is pathetic is being told the solution to the ENY problem is for us to have to loose this sense of loyalty in order to fly the planes we want to fly. Call me crazy or pathetic if you will, but loyalty is what takes bases, wins resets, and pays subscriptions. You and murdr don't seem to mind flip flopping around from country to country, and that is fine for you guys, but to alot of us, it's kinda Fink-ish. I would go so far as to say treacherous. I am of the school of thought that if you switch sides, you should loose your rank and perks; that loyalty to the country you fly for should be encouraged. Otherwise, why have different countries at all?

[Furious]

Originally posted by twitchy
...You and murdr don't seem to mind flip flopping around from country to country, and that is fine for you guys, but to alot of us, it's kinda Fink-ish. I would go so far as to say treacherous. I am of the school of thought that if you switch sides, you should loose your rank and perks; that loyalty to the country you fly for should be encouraged. Otherwise, why have different countries at all?

LOL, that's over the top funay.

...and I agree, why have countries at all?

[phookat]

Originally posted by twitchy
You don't seem to understand the fact that the countries in AH are more than icons, it represents a group. Friends. Countrymen. Loyalty to this group is natural, and the spirit of competition it invokes is perfectly natural.

One community.  Not three countries.

Originally posted by twitchy
Otherwise, why have different countries at all?

Because we belong to a single community that wants to play a game.

[twitchy]

Originally posted by phookat
One community.  Not three countries.
Because we belong to a single community that wants to play a game.

One community? No there are three communities that exsist within one game. When last I looked, the goal of the game we all play was to kill the other countries.

[phookat]

Originally posted by twitchy
One community? No there are three communities that exsist within one game. When last I looked, the goal of the game we all play was to kill the other countries.

Try to think of it differently.  It will make this whole thing easier for you.

The countries aren't real--they are artificial constructs designed to create a game.  That is all.  Just because the goal of the game is to kill the other country, doesn't mean they are your enemies.  Any more than your opponents in Parcheesi are your enemies.  When you play Charades, do you feel "loyal" to your game partner?  Do you feel a sense of "betrayal" when you switch partners to play another round?

[twitchy]

Originally posted by phookat
Try to think of it differently.  It will make this whole thing easier for you.

The countries aren't real--they are artificial constructs designed to create a game.  That is all.  Just because the goal of the game is to kill the other country, doesn't mean they are your enemies.  Any more than your opponents in Parcheesi are your enemies.  When you play Charades, do you feel "loyal" to your game partner?  Do you feel a sense of "betrayal" when you switch partners to play another round?

After flying with them for over three years, you darn right I do.

[SCDR]

Welp, when you have an enmy tiger on your field and all you can
up is a panzer, you're going to die ALOT.
Guess the bottom line is, it's HT's sim and he's going to do as he
darn well pleases.

SCDR