Author Topic: Fridays setup: Britain/France 1941 (Read 1652 times)

Sable · « **Reply #15 on:** August 20, 2004, 12:25:39 AM »

Doesn't the 109F4 have a pretty good speed and climb advantage?

And suprise suprise, one of the new skins we got today was a channel front JG2 109F4.

Grits · « **Reply #16 on:** August 20, 2004, 12:39:33 AM »

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Originally posted by Sable
Doesn't the 109F4 have a pretty good speed and climb advantage?

Yes it does. Even with the gondies its faster and climbs better. Pretty darn even match if you ask me, not like say....oh...Zekes vs F4U's..

Arlo · « **Reply #17 on:** August 20, 2004, 01:45:19 AM »

I kilt me a few F4Us in mah Zeke, Billy Bobsan.

Ok - CT page reflects new setup:

http://www.jollyrogers.info/Combat_Theater.html

To be fair, I put up music reflecting a German martial flavor. I'll be damned if my feet didn't start tapping. To top it off, I'll probably be flying grey this week.

And they say hangin' around `em don't mean you'll catch anything.

B17Skull12 · « **Reply #18 on:** August 20, 2004, 01:56:32 AM »

Best part of it is we got new skins to toy with

Eagler · « **Reply #19 on:** August 20, 2004, 05:49:25 AM »

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Originally posted by B17Skull12
Best part of it is we got new skins to toy with

and with no icons you'd actually get in close enough to appreciate them..

storch · « **Reply #20 on:** August 20, 2004, 07:33:28 AM »

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Originally posted by Oleg
Set fuel burn rate to 1.5 please. BOB map is huge, but fields there even closer than it was in old small BOB map and nobody (ok, may be almost nobody) fly deep in enemy territory. In last BOB setup 50% fuel was quite enough.

Fuel was 1.0 last time

storch · « **Reply #21 on:** August 20, 2004, 07:38:53 AM »

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Originally posted by Kweassa
Bf109F-4's are owned, against 16+ overboosted SpitVs.

Damn!

No he's right the SpitV in AHII is waaaaaaaaaaaay overboosted. you may want to consider the Spit IX as opposed to the porked SpitV. or the corresponding seafire I forget which one that is.

Oleg · « **Reply #22 on:** August 20, 2004, 07:44:53 AM »

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Originally posted by storch
Fuel was 1.0 last time

I know, therefore i ask for 1.5 in coming setup.

storch · « **Reply #23 on:** August 20, 2004, 08:13:13 AM »

Flew the respective fighters at 10,500 ASL WEP engaged 50% Fuel Burn multiplies 1.00 offline. I didn't test the Hurri IIc because I suspect it is still quite slower.

SpitV/Seafire II 359 mph but phenomenal accelleration. it is indeed boosting 16

Bf 109 F 367 mph no gondies 200 rds in the nose cannon
Bf 109 F 356 mph with gondies 450 rds of cannon
Bf 110 c 325 mph

So this week we have the best turners and the fastest fighters on the same side. Another looooooooong week.

Wotan · « **Reply #24 on:** August 20, 2004, 08:39:39 AM »

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Originally posted by Sable
Now we just need a JG2 or JG26 skin for the 109F.

You should have my 109F-4 skin now.

Josef Puchinger, Stab./III./JG2

The default F4 skin is Hans "Assi" Hahn, Stab./III./JG2 IIRC.

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Originally posted by Kweassa
Bf109F-4's are owned, against 16+ overboosted SpitVs.

Damn!

The 109F-4 is running at 1.42 ata which at least according to Butch it wasnt cleared for until mid / late '43.

max continous (MIL) =38.9 MP = 1.30 ata

38.9 / 28.96 = 1.34 ata (1.30 pyro's math is off. He knows so and said so in another thread)

WEP = 42.2 = 1.42 ata

42.2 / 28.96 = 1.46 (again pyro's math is off).

Even with it running at 1.42 ata it runs for 10 min on "WEP" despite the rl 5 min restriction. Some LW planes are actually over modelled to a degree despite all the whining we generally hear .

Here's the speed test I did on the 109F-4:

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Bf 109F-4 100% fuel 1 x 20mm / MG 151 200 rpg, fuel mod set to lowest value.

SL

Military Power – SL 38.9 MP @ 2500 RPM = 310 MPH
Emergency Power – SL 42.2 MP @ 2700 RPM = 332 MPH

5k

Military Power – 5000 FT 38.9 MP @ 2500 RPM = 328 MPH
Emergency Power – 5000FT 42.2 MP @ 2700 RPM = 350 MPH

10k

Military Power – 10000 FT 38.9 MP @ 2500 RPM = 347 MPH
Emergency Power – 10000 FT 42.2 MP @ 2700 RPM = 365 MPH

15k

Military Power – 15000 FT 38.9 MP @ 2500 RPM = 364 MPH
Emergency Power – 15000 FT 42.2 MP @ 2700 RPM = 381 MPH

20k

Military Power – 20000 FT 38.9 MP @ 2500 RPM = 382 MPH
Emergency Power – 20000 FT 42.2 MP @ 2700 RPM = 394 MPH

22.5k

Military Power – 22500 FT 38.9 MP @ 2500 RPM = 383 MPH
Emergency Power – 22500 FT 42.2 MP @ 2700 RPM = 387 MPH

Wotan · « **Reply #25 on:** August 20, 2004, 08:55:17 AM »

One quick correction

The 1.30 ata power setting was actually climb and combat power and had a 30 min limit. In AH its unlimted.

The 1.42 ata setting was limited to just 3 min but could sustain up to 10 min provided the engine did not overheat.

Karnak · « **Reply #26 on:** August 20, 2004, 10:40:02 AM »

Storch,

Where'd you get 367mph for the Bf109F-4?

Are you the guy that was trying to tell me the Bf109G-10 in AH on does 425mph? If so that would explain quite a bit.

Wotan · « **Reply #27 on:** August 20, 2004, 10:51:17 AM »

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Bf 109 F 367 mph no gondies 200 rds in the nose cannon

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10,500 ASL WEP engaged

Is about right....

at 100% Fuel I got:

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10k

Military Power – 10000 FT 38.9 MP @ 2500 RPM = 347 MPH
Emergency Power – 10000 FT 42.2 MP @ 2700 RPM = 365 MPH

But that's not at best altitude. The Spit 5 performance falls off dramtically the higher you go.

At 15k the 109F-4 will have np with the Sipt 5.

DktrEvil · « **Reply #28 on:** August 20, 2004, 11:30:07 AM »

I have one simple request ............................. .........................

NO FLASHING FIELDS

No vehicles so no flashing fields

storch · « **Reply #29 on:** August 20, 2004, 01:03:38 PM »

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Originally posted by Karnak
Storch,

Where'd you get 367mph for the Bf109F-4?

Are you the guy that was trying to tell me the Bf109G-10 in AH on does 425mph? If so that would explain quite a bit.

The only thing I ever tell you is that your poetry sucks.