Author Topic: WTG Bish (Read 919 times)

Kev367th · « **on:** September 13, 2004, 07:52:33 AM »

Been so many negative posts recently, just wanted to say WTG on HQ defense last night!
Was nice to see so many people answer the call to arms against the Rook hoard HQ raid.
I don't even think 1 even got close enough to drop its eggs.

ghi · « **Reply #1 on:** September 13, 2004, 09:48:24 AM »

yes, WTG on defence ,

GScholz · « **Reply #2 on:** September 13, 2004, 09:54:11 AM »

It's the same every Sunday and I hate it as much as you (I'm a Rook). The Sunday Rook Joint Squad Operation was a desperate attempt to even out the odds when us Rooks had been outnumbered for more than a year. Now the operation is obsolete and ruins gameplay for everybody.

Kev367th · « **Reply #3 on:** September 13, 2004, 10:11:17 AM »

Come on guys does EVERY thread have to be turned into an ENV whine?

Fauxbra · « **Reply #4 on:** September 13, 2004, 11:09:29 AM »

why dont Bish and Knights just join together on sunday nights and whoop the Rook hoard????

Stang · « **Reply #5 on:** September 13, 2004, 11:32:11 AM »

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why dont Bish and Knights just join together on sunday nights and whoop the Rook hoard????

And there gentlemen is the answer to it all. Yet, to do this, it would require FIGHTING people instead of hoarding undefended bases and milking. What a shock it would be...

SlapShot · « **Reply #6 on:** September 13, 2004, 11:50:22 AM »

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Originally posted by Fauxbra
why dont Bish and Knights just join together on sunday nights and whoop the Rook hoard????

I was tried one night and not all were willing to agree, so it failed.

One squad didn't recognize the truce and went and took bases that weren't rooks bases.

Because of that, it will never work.

Kev367th · « **Reply #7 on:** September 13, 2004, 12:09:41 PM »

Yeah Slapshot, it worked to up to a point.
I think around 80% maybe more? of Knits/Bish abided by the truce.
Had 2 funny side effects -
1) The amount of Rook whines on channel 200
2) Within a short time around 100 Rooks logged off.

Not so much fun when shoes on the other foot is it?

AKcurly · « **Reply #8 on:** September 13, 2004, 12:40:06 PM »

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Originally posted by Stang
And there gentlemen is the answer to it all. Yet, to do this, it would require FIGHTING people instead of hoarding undefended bases and milking. What a shock it would be...

Not completely true, Stang. I saw both Bishop and Knight squads refuse to solely attack Rooks. They had a simple reason: They thought it was unfair.

If a few rook squads would rotate to Bishop or Knights, I suspect (pure speculation on my part) Hitech would remove the eny limiter.

How is it the Rook squads fail to recognize this is exactly how the rooks were rescued several years ago? Do you think the rotation occurred because of we *really* like rooks?

It happened because several Bishop/Knight squads recognized that gameplay for all involved would be improved by making the sides approximately even.

Today, even with the eny limiter in place, there is still a significant unbalance. However, without the ability to mount la7s, ponies and Ni1ks, it's difficult for the hoard to roll over bases.

curly

Kev367th · « **Reply #9 on:** September 13, 2004, 12:46:26 PM »

As a member of a squad that went Rook to help, Curly is spot on with his observations.
The Bish/Knit squads changing to Rooks always seems to get conveniently overlooked in favour of the 'superior organiztion', RJO, we did it all ourselves, explanations constantly trotted out.

Still think its a shame that a thread designed to praise the Bish for their HQ defence last inght has been hijacked by the ENV whiners.

Howitzer · « **Reply #10 on:** September 13, 2004, 01:22:37 PM »

Yeah it is too bad for the thread, but I have to tell you, I enjoy flying with rooks. I know quite a few guys, and the situational awareness on rooks has been specatuclar. People calling out planes, checking 6's, flying together... I'm sorry to say it but I'll take up a crappier plane to fly in these environments. Now, like I said, I plan to check out bishland sometime here in the future to see how it has changed, but I don't have any plans about staying. The rooks I've seen fly together, and they put together JSO's or joint strike ops that really increase the #'s of folks flying together. Why don't the knights and bish do what slapshot was talking about and organize a JSO of your own? I've seen so much time put into posts about how the #'s on Sunday nights are unfair and I really haven't seen much of this energy put into organizing folks. I remember the huge MAW raids of the past, the ROCSTAR missions, the Freebirds, the Pornstars... these guys could organize and take bases. The best defense is a good offense, get guys together, fly away from the rook horde to a base they aren't looking at and start porking/capturing. Even on Sundays I see a big group of rooks hitting bish, and one hitting knights, there are a couple little small battles going on, but honestly there are about 10 bases on the frontline where nothing is happening. 25 ponies/tiffies/jugs can do amazing things to an undefended base.

AKcurly · « **Reply #11 on:** September 13, 2004, 01:31:46 PM »

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Originally posted by Howitzer
I remember the huge MAW raids of the past, the ROCSTAR missions, the Freebirds, the Pornstars... these guys could organize and take bases. The best defense is a good offense, get guys together, fly away from the rook horde to a base they aren't looking at and start porking/capturing. Even on Sundays I see a big group of rooks hitting bish, and one hitting knights, there are a couple little small battles going on, but honestly there are about 10 bases on the frontline where nothing is happening. 25 ponies/tiffies/jugs can do amazing things to an undefended base.

Raids are possible if you aren't spending all of your time defending an area. If you are facing large rook numbers, it isn't a good idea to pull numbers away for a raid. On Sunday nights 25 ponies would represent approximately 20% of the entire Bishop airforce.

curly

DoKGonZo · « **Reply #12 on:** September 13, 2004, 01:36:28 PM »

FWIW, I noticed some much cagier and more determined flying from B's and K's last night. Maybe it was just some Rooks who switched sides , but I don't think that would account for all of it.

For the Rooks ... look ... HT will eventually get this dialed in right ... or something else will change ... who knows? In the meanwhile, look at Sunday nights as a night to try goofball squad missions, or just to fly the planes you never get to other nights.

-DoK

Howitzer · « **Reply #13 on:** September 13, 2004, 01:52:52 PM »

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Originally posted by AKcurly
Raids are possible if you aren't spending all of your time defending an area. If you are facing large rook numbers, it isn't a good idea to pull numbers away for a raid. On Sunday nights 25 ponies would represent approximately 20% of the entire Bishop airforce.

curly

I see what you mean curly, but if the bish and knights tried doing the SJO's on Sundays, maybe that would bring more in?

AKcurly · « **Reply #14 on:** September 13, 2004, 02:37:06 PM »

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Originally posted by Howitzer
I see what you mean curly, but if the bish and knights tried doing the SJO's on Sundays, maybe that would bring more in?

Howitzer, RJO started because the Rooks always had low numbers. They wanted at least one night when they would have at least equal, if not greater numbers. Consequently, many Rook squads have squad nights on Sunday.

All squads already have a squad night. It would be difficult to get squads to move their squad night ... not impossible, but difficult.

How about the other 6 nights of the week? Occasionally, one country will outnumber rooks during prime-time, but it's unusual. Usually, Rooks have a 20+ advantage.

We really need at least two rook squads to move to Bishop or Knights.

curly