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Offline Holden McGroin

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What would you like to see out of a second Bush term?
« Reply #45 on: September 18, 2004, 01:06:21 PM »
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And what did Bush do when he tried to over rule the Constitution when it came to the rights of a US citizen by executive edict?


Bush has issued more than 150 Executive Orders.  Which one(s) has you most upset?

Or is it that Executive Orders exist and really have no constitutional foundation no matter what president invokes them?
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« Reply #46 on: September 18, 2004, 01:12:56 PM »
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Bush has issued more than 150 Executive Orders.  Which one(s) has you most upset?



Declaring a US citizen and enemy combatant and trying to suspend their right to haebus corpus.



"Of course the Bush administration has done a ton of good for religious freedom and for the right to bear arms, but the Kanukistanianameristalkers ignore it because they don't agree with those constitutional rights."


Please, sometimes we are judged on our one offs.

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« Reply #47 on: September 18, 2004, 01:17:15 PM »
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Machine gun posts on our southern border.


Together with mines. lots and LOTS of landmines

Preferably the kind that castrate and not kill.
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« Reply #48 on: September 18, 2004, 01:21:27 PM »
like to see em say

"I as the prez of this good ol' US of A would like to excuse my

actions in Iraq and yes it was for OIL because 20 years from now

we won't have anymore(there goes my big bellybutton Hummer) and for

PISSIN OFF everyone else in the world"

but since that ain't gonna happen, business as usual, who gives a fug:aok

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« Reply #49 on: September 18, 2004, 01:24:42 PM »
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Together with mines. lots and LOTS of landmines

Preferably the kind that castrate and not kill.


LOL

Better yet how about mines that release birth control agents.  :)

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« Reply #50 on: September 18, 2004, 01:30:03 PM »
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Declaring a US citizen and enemy combatant and trying to suspend their right to haebus corpus.
 


The phrase enemy combatant was invented by the US Supreme Court in the 1942 ruling "Ex Parte Quirin".

As defined by President Franklin D Roosevelt's proclamation number 2561, this definition applied to all persons who are subjects, citizens, or residents of any Nation at war with the United States or who give obedience to or act under the direction of any such Nation and who during time of war enter or attempt to enter the United States or any territory or possession thereof, through coastal or boundary defenses, and are charged with committing or attempting or preparing to commit sabotage, espionage, hostile or warlike acts, or violations of the law or war..[/b]

Once determined by the president to be an enemy combatant, persons may be held indefinitely and are subject to the jursidiction of military tribunals. Appeals or privilege to access to civilian courts is only granted to enemy combatants with the approval of both the Attorney General and Secretary of Defense.

Although the power to declare enemy combatants was upheld by the Supreme Court in 1942, it is currently under review (as of May 2004) and the future of this authority is unknown.

Until the court decides otherwise, by the decision of the 1942 SC, enemy combatant status is constitutional.
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« Reply #51 on: September 18, 2004, 01:37:54 PM »
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LOL

Better yet how about mines that release birth control agents.  :)


Yea but wouldnt be as much of a deterrent.

Which would deter you more the possibility having birth control agents forced upon you? or the possibility of having your nuts blown off?

My way accomplishes the same thing anyway:)
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« Reply #52 on: September 18, 2004, 02:08:40 PM »
Yes Holden, and how does that apply to a citizen of the US?

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« Reply #53 on: September 18, 2004, 02:16:53 PM »
Jose Padilla, a US Citizen held under this act, is accused of "giving obedience to or act under the direction of" and entered the US from spending time in Pakistan.  He therefore qualifies under the second part of the definition, "and who during time of war enter or attempt to enter the United States or any territory or possession thereof, through coastal or boundary defenses, and are charged with committing or attempting or preparing to commit sabotage, espionage, hostile or warlike acts, or violations of the law or war.. "
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« Reply #54 on: September 18, 2004, 02:21:19 PM »
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Yes Holden, and how does that apply to a citizen of the US?


Re read the first part of this:

all persons who are subjects, citizens, or residents of any Nation at war with the United States or who give obedience to or act under the direction of any such Nation  and who during time of war enter or attempt to enter the United States or any territory or possession thereof, through coastal or boundary defenses, and are charged with committing or attempting or preparing to commit sabotage, espionage, hostile or warlike acts, or violations of the law or war...
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Re: Re: What would you like to see out of a second Bush term?
« Reply #55 on: September 18, 2004, 02:29:10 PM »
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Do you really want to know?
Whatever combination of assassinations is required to put Powell in the Oval Office.  That would be a good start.
That's pretty improbable so I will just hope that the next 4 years finally wake up the rest of America to the fact that the two-party-graftocracy is killing this country.


The first thing Powell would do in the Oval Office, be assassinated.

Eddy Murphy had it right.

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« Reply #56 on: September 18, 2004, 02:52:39 PM »
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What would you like to see out of a second Bush term?


maybe bush with dem ctrl @ 06























or

Kerry and rep ctrl @ 06


talk about win/win situation!

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Re: What would you like to see out of a second Bush term?
« Reply #57 on: September 18, 2004, 04:09:55 PM »
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What would you like to see out of a second Bush term?

Title says it all.  Please keep it civil.


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« Reply #58 on: September 19, 2004, 01:28:20 AM »
Fine Mark, and Holden.  But it didn't become an attack on the US Constitution until it was actually applied to US citizen.

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What would you like to see out of a second Bush term?
« Reply #59 on: September 19, 2004, 12:45:01 PM »
He will raise taxes

He will bow to the WTO.