swedes

[Staga]

Originally posted by Maniac
False.

You have to undestand that we are only 9 million ppl in Sweden, and then you understand that the 3rd largest city is very very small.

Any incident will be blown up to enourmous proportions...

< ----- Swede.

Same here. If half dozen immigrants have a gang-fight with some other minorities the incident will find its way to the frontpages of the evening news.

BTW where did you find that news? Christian World?
Because in here the most problematic part of the immigrants are the childrens of the parents who came from eastern European countries or from Russia so they are Christians. However I'm not racist enought (or idiot enough) to claim that it's those frigging christians again...

[capt. apathy]

Originally posted by storch
Guess why that will never happen here in the wonderful USA?

really?  when I lived in KC (20 yrs ago) there were areas where the cops only went in with 2 or more cars, and ambulances and fire trucks went in with escorts.

the quindero (sp?) neighborhood was one, can't remember the name of the other.

[Seeker]

Originally posted by Staga
Same here. If half dozen immigrants have a gang-fight with some other minorities the incident will find its way to the frontpages of the evening news.

BTW where did you find that news? Christian World?
Because in here the most problematic part of the immigrants are the childrens of the parents who came from eastern European countries or from Russia so they are Christians. However I'm not racist enought (or idiot enough) to claim that it's those frigging christians again...

Same here in Copenhagen. Ironicaly enough in my neighbourhood all the headscarved women and men in flowing robes and buisness shoes hanging around street corners are Somali refugees and also Christian; not that many locals seem to catch on.

In Denmark; in the last ten years I've been here; the most terrorist action has been done by Bikers. There's been an open shoot out in the airport; and they spent a summer popping off RPG's at each others club houses and chucking grenades in each others jail cells. No one suggests that they'd be racialy profiled; and the better organised ones have organised themselves as "cultural clubs" and recieve limited state funds.

As do the Danish Nazi party.

Funny world; isn't it?

[Westy]

"BTW where did you find that news? Christian World?"

lol.  Close!  Here is the source:

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=5096

"The Conservative Weekly"  aka  "Everything is a Leftwing Monoply and They're Out to Get Us!" rag.

[ra]

The story can't be true because CBS hasn't reported it.

[cpxxx]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
Recently, I've been seeing a rise of muslims in Europe starting all sorts of trouble.  I foresee World War 3 or at least an attempt of it as the muslims try to take europe.

I think the trouble has already started............. but Muslims won't take Europe or anywhere else. They will be absorbed and moderated like everyone else. The extremists have nothing to offer anyone.

As for the Police or ambulance crews being afraid to enter certain areas. Well maybe it's strange in Sweden but it happens everywhere mostly with the locals. Certainly it happens in the UK.  Here in Ireland they used to lure the Police into an area and bombard them with stones and bricks. Another trick was to steal a car, find a patrol car and ram it so they could get a chase then lure the cops into an ambush. Mad stuff.

[storch]

Originally posted by capt. apathy
really?  when I lived in KC (20 yrs ago) there were areas where the cops only went in with 2 or more cars, and ambulances and fire trucks went in with escorts.

the quindero (sp?) neighborhood was one, can't remember the name of the other.

Really?  20 years ago. hmmmmm.  Has Kansas (or Missouri) allowed shall issue permits?  We used to have some neighborhoods like that here but since 1987 that has all changed.  We have very docile bad guys now.  There are no neighborhoods you can't go into.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by ra
The story can't be true because CBS hasn't reported it.

[AKIron]

Originally posted by Westy
"BTW where did you find that news? Christian World?"

lol.  Close!  Here is the source:

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=5096

"The Conservative Weekly"  aka  "Everything is a Leftwing Monoply and They're Out to Get Us!" rag.

Uh, you did read that right? It was quoting a Swedish source:

Sweden's third-largest city, Malmø, according to the Swedish Aftonbladet, has become an outpost of the Middle East in Scandinavia: "The police now publicly admit what many Scandinavians have known for a long time: They no longer control the situation in the nations's third largest city. It is effectively ruled by violent gangs of Muslim immigrants. Some of the Muslims have lived in the area of Rosengård, Malmø, for twenty years, and still don't know how to read or write Swedish. Ambulance personnel are attacked by stones or weapons, and refuse to help anybody in the area without police escort. The immigrants also spit at them when they come to help. Recently, an Albanian youth was stabbed by an Arab, and was left bleeding to death on the ground while the ambulance waited for the police to arrive. The police themselves hesitate to enter parts of their own city unless they have several patrols, and need to have guards to watch their cars, otherwise they will be vandalized."



This may not link with the vB code off but you can cut and paste:

http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/nyheter/story/0,2789,529910,00.html

[Westy]

" It was quoting a Swedish source:"

Yes. The author of that article quoted from a Swedish source but for just one part of his article.  The rest, 3/4's at least, was the authors spin and speculation using other "facts."


Besides IMO he's an American right wing,  fundaMENTAListic, religious nutbag.  But regardless of that he's not European and his opinion doesn't count on what happens there.



  (*handy application of the neocon rule for discource where they discount European opinion of American things)

[AKIron]

Originally posted by Westy
" It was quoting a Swedish source:"

Yes. The author of that article quoted from a Swedish source but for just one part of his article.  The rest, 3/4's at least, was the authors spin and speculation using other "facts."


Besides IMO he's an American right wing,  fundaMENTAListic, religious nutbag.  But regardless of that he's not European and his opinion doesn't count on what happens there.



  (*handy application of the neocon rule for discource where they discount European opinion of American things)

So, instead of addressing the article from the Swedish paper you attack the citer. How liberal of you.

[Westy]

Why? I can't read Swedish so I cannot read your link and I don't trust the right wing nutbag author to have quoted within context as ALL of his prior articles are of an extreme rightwing FundaMENTAList POV.  He's as removed from objectivity as Pluto is from our sun.

 Besides. People from Europe, (Maniac, Staga & Seeker) have already provided a far better rebuttal. I trust thier opinion and judgement on this matter a lot more than yours.

 Attacking the source is also a neocon trick I've adopted. Ask for links and then discredit the source.  Aint it neat?

[Maniac]

AKIron.

I live in Sweden.

What you read in that article simply aint true. I as a white Swedish male can walk the streets ANYWHERE at ANYTIME without being scared of ANYTHING.

I can be drunk as hell fall asleep in the subway wake up in ANY suburb and i WILL be djust fine.

Trust me.

[AKIron]

So is this Swedish web site unreliable? Are they all liars? Is this a well known cite or publication in Sweden?

http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/nyheter/story/0,2789,529910,00.html

[Staga]

AFAIK Aftonbladet is an afternoon paper which solds only if it has a good, catchy frontpage.
We have couple of those in Finland too and sometimes if it has been quiet night/morning they need to really "make" news or they wouldn't sell any newspapers that day.