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Offline GRUNHERZ

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« Reply #60 on: October 08, 2004, 12:05:19 PM »
Whitehawk, prove that you are not a lunatic or please sut up...

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« Reply #61 on: October 08, 2004, 12:06:16 PM »
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well, after about 10 minutes of searching for the bush binladen connection, there are so many that I just offer you this.
  Type in search' bush bin laden connection' and read for yourself.
(This is for those who demand proper documentation, even tho there is rarely, if ever, proper documentation offered from them).

I am not insinuationg anything here, I am merely stating that if the 3 conditions are true

1.  Bush family ties to bin laden
2.  Bush president/ bin laden perpretator of 911 attacks.
3. Bush bin laden stand to gain hundreds of millions from the resulting wars...
 
  Then I am uncomfortable.

ARE YOU?

I realize that bin laden pulled out of the carlyle group shortly AFTER the attacks, they could have realized how this looked, and graciously backed away, but, seriously folks, can we really trust the bin ladens?


You're crazy.   Seriously.  I offer this thread and the WTC thread as "documentation".

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« Reply #62 on: October 08, 2004, 12:09:37 PM »
Whitehawk does not run Bartertown.
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« Reply #63 on: October 08, 2004, 12:10:07 PM »
I'm gonna go make a wepage that says Whitehawk is a lunitic. All of you free to post links to it as further evidence of whitehaks condition... Then we will ask him to prove us all wrong!

I will also make a page that says he is gay, he will have to dispove that too.

Thanks Whitehawk! Your standrsds of argument are fantastic, I can make any claim against you, cite some kook lunatic sources as evidence, call it gospel and proudly lay the burden on yoiu to disprove my lunatic accusations!

Awesome!!!

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« Reply #64 on: October 08, 2004, 12:10:39 PM »
I find it nauseating to have ever been in the same squad w/ such a liberal whacko as that Dude guy.  Ugh, AoM is forever tarnished.
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« Reply #65 on: October 08, 2004, 12:11:49 PM »
we have not landed on the moon..

big NASA lie so Kennedy looked good..

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don't worry skerry "has a plan "

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« Reply #66 on: October 08, 2004, 12:20:31 PM »
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well, after about 10 minutes of searching for the bush binladen connection, there are so many that I just offer you this.
  Type in search' bush bin laden connection' and read for yourself.
(This is for those who demand proper documentation, even tho there is rarely, if ever, proper documentation offered from them).

I am not insinuationg anything here, I am merely stating that if the 3 conditions are true

1.  Bush family ties to bin laden
2.  Bush president/ bin laden perpretator of 911 attacks.
3. Bush bin laden stand to gain hundreds of millions from the resulting wars...
 
  Then I am uncomfortable.

ARE YOU?

I realize that bin laden pulled out of the carlyle group shortly AFTER the attacks, they could have realized how this looked, and graciously backed away, but, seriously folks, can we really trust the bin ladens?


Whitehawk what more do you need.....a hammer to hit you in the head with the proof inscribed on it??????

You are reaching here man.....set down the paper bag filled with scotch guard.....close all open paint thinner containers....and get yourself some fresh air.

All you have even remotly proved is something close to being guilty by association.  Kinda like Moore said Bush invited the Taliban to texas....not true either but I guess cause Bush and the taliban were in the same state at the same time they must be associated by your standards huh?

Osama is one of 57 siblings.  That means all of them have cousins moms kids aunts uncles.....ITS A HUGE FAMILY AND MOST IF NOT ALL OF THEM HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH OSAMA

THE BUSH FAMILY IS INTO OIL.....YOU CANT BE INTO OIL AND NOT HAVE DEALINGS WITH THE BIN LADENS.

Associated sure......but it would be the equivilent to my second cousin's twice removed half sisters aunts brother met elvis once....does that mean I know elvis personally?????

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« Reply #67 on: October 08, 2004, 12:21:50 PM »
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1164856/posts

yep... anyone who would see moores entertaining but vitriholic and false film should read this report.

The report is not very funny or entertaining or sensational but it pretty much deconstructs and debunks the entire film.

The article does to 9/11 what other articlles have done to his other films.

moore is a dishonest little weasel who has no shame and who can find nothing too low to stoop to.   No missrepresentation or slight of hand is too abhorent for him to stoop to.

Consevatives would have shunned him if he were on their side by now.

all this while at the same time making fun of his stupid audience while he is abroad.   What kind of a tool would admire moore?

lazs


I just saw the video yesterday.

I read that article you linked--I think I've seen parts of it before elsewhere and while some of it I'll concede--I really don't know all the why's and wherefore\s of the election debacle--there's a lot of BS in there.

One of the things folks didn't get to see in the movie theaters were the extras included in the DVD--80 minutes of interviews--like Condi Rice's actual testimony before the 9/11 commission--the subject was the PDB the Prez got--before she had said the title was vague--in that interview tho she said it said something like "AL-Queda determined to attack US" (it's probably a bit different) but the point is it was in NO way "vague" as your article would lead one to believe.

That's just one point of the many in the article that was a stretch (Bush's "vacations" for instance--they didn't count the weekends!!).

I can see now why the whole Repub engine went ballistic over this movie. It is quite the indictment. If only 20% of it is true there's real problems coming in November for the neocons.

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« Reply #68 on: October 08, 2004, 12:22:56 PM »
Whitehawk,

In all honesty and frienlyness here. :)

Your basic problem is that you are too chicken to say exactly what you really think.

It seems to me taht you think the Bush Family and the US goverment were involved carryuing out the 911 attacks in concernt with the arab bin ladens and rich jewish WTC landowners. And that this was all a scheme  to earn money and power despite the deaths of thousands of innocents and the destruction of large sectors of the US economy by targeting the econi=omic center of the USA.

This is crazy, and I think even you realize this, but you still belive - because you are prolly a bit nutty or at least angry yourself...

So you have to come up with tangental arguments in the hope that others will somehow infer the same things as you have come to belive.

So thats why you post thgese dubious financial arguments.

Thats why you obess about this huge bin laden family and need to thinkm, and need us to think,  that they are all like osama..

Thats why you cite "intersting" sites with lunatic theories that claim the WTC was blown up with bombs and not planes. Or calim that that planew did not hit the pantagon or whatever u are saying..


Thats why you continue these idiout ideads and come back week after week and annoy us with this garbage...

Why dont yoiu have the guts to just say it?  you would get a lot more respect for just being honest nad skirting around the real issue with these pathetic argumets.  Mind you I said some respect but not agreement. But its better than what you are getting now..


So once and for all:

Whitehawk, do you belive that the Bush family and the US goverment were consciously and deliberatly involved in planning, supporting, and/or carrying out the 911 attacks in league with  Osama bin laden for the purpose of financial gain?  Or do you belive the same groups above were involved in the 911 attack and framed osama bin laden or otherwise used him as a patsy to cover up their involvement?

Do you belive this?
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« Reply #69 on: October 08, 2004, 12:32:05 PM »
horn... think about what you are saying here.... the article pretty much debunks and deconstructs moores movie... the reason it does is because moore is playing  a very decietful and shamless slight of hand game with the facts... that is, and allways has been his style...

Now.... you say (paraphrase) "well yeah... moore is a decietful a hole who pretty much missrepresented and took out of context on purpose everything in the movie but.... he makes a new movie on top of the movie that shows even more of his edited footage that proves his points"

I mean... the guy has proven that he uses film to decieve and now you take.... his new film to be true while admiting his old film was total BS?

how many times you gonna get triffled with by this manipulating buffoon before you yell "enough".

here is a hint... if it is a moore film clip... it is meant to decieve.

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« Reply #70 on: October 08, 2004, 12:33:46 PM »
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All of you free to post links to it as further evidence of whitehaks condition... Then we will ask him to prove us all wrong!



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It's true.  I've seen it.

WhiteHawk is a looney

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« Reply #71 on: October 08, 2004, 12:39:34 PM »
If you are gonna watch the propaganda ministers 9/11 movie you have to also watch a movie called Farinhype. Might have spelled it wrong. It sheds some light on that over stuffed windbags claims. Very,Very good.
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« Reply #72 on: October 08, 2004, 01:01:53 PM »
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I find it nauseating to have ever been in the same squad w/ such a liberal whacko as that Dude guy.  Ugh, AoM is forever tarnished.


lol Steve! Damn straight its tarnished! I cursed the day someone went behind my back and let a puppet into the muppets!!:lol :lol

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« Reply #73 on: October 08, 2004, 01:02:59 PM »
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« Reply #74 on: October 08, 2004, 01:17:24 PM »
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horn... think about what you are saying here.... the article pretty much debunks and deconstructs moores movie... the reason it does is because moore is playing  a very decietful and shamless slight of hand game with the facts... that is, and allways has been his style...

Now.... you say (paraphrase) "well yeah... moore is a decietful a hole who pretty much missrepresented and took out of context on purpose everything in the movie but.... he makes a new movie on top of the movie that shows even more of his edited footage that proves his points"

I mean... the guy has proven that he uses film to decieve and now you take.... his new film to be true while admiting his old film was total BS?

how many times you gonna get triffled with by this manipulating buffoon before you yell "enough".

here is a hint... if it is a moore film clip... it is meant to decieve.

lazs


I'm confused. New film? Old film? Perhaps I didn't explain it well enough. The extras are not like the movie. At all. They are stand alone pieces--one is the glad handing that went on when he previewed the movie in DC. One is Condi's testimony. One is a *long* interview with an imbedded jouranlist. Like that. No interpretation really, just the camera running.

And, again, the article you linked really doesn't debunk all that much. Especially the Saudi/Bush/Carlyle Group stuff which is flat incorrect for the most part--like when Bush (sr.) joined Carlyle--the article actually uses some obfuscation of its own--it says that when the 1.4 billion was gotten thru BDM Bush wasn't a member of the board--and they are right--but that does NOT mean that Bush sr wasn't representing carlyle already--he went overseas for them and also made a speech for them as well. At the very least.

Yeah, Moore left a lot of "impressions" that might lead one to make erroneous conclusions but if you let a movie dictate your beliefs then you are an idiot anyway. What the movie did was make me wonder--and then go search for the facts. I found the movie funny and sad--from the gung-ho Mom that lost her son to the deer-in-the-headlights look that Bush takes on when told of 9/11.

Some say he stayed not to "upset the children" (who didn't know what was going on anyway)--it looked to me like an indecisive man, in over his head,  that didn't know when to go take care of business.

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