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Offline DREDIOCK

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« Reply #60 on: December 01, 2004, 08:06:25 PM »
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I sit a couple of desks away from a guy who supports a team called Sheffield United, which is a rival team to Sheffield Wednesday. He hasn't said the word Wednesday for 20+ years.

I played football with him a couple of times against another plant. What he did on the pitch would probably land him in jail if he did it off the pitch. He kicked one poor lad into a heap that was carried off the pitch and on into casualty.

I gather he was (is?) an old school 'sissy' - back in the days when lads were a bit naughty with their fists on match days. Not sure I'd like to get on the wrong side of him, and he plays every Sunday in amateur football.

Nice chap otherwise.


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« Reply #61 on: December 01, 2004, 09:56:10 PM »
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the fact that you cant even explain properly what you could do makes me very sceptical you could play football (soccer), and the fact that you are so desperate woman wise makes it hard for me to believe that you played for any type of sports team at all.

Chess club?
to satisfy you d***headness:

i played soccer for the first time in my life gym 1988 freshman year, and was "told" i was good.....

in football i had a 1 1/2 step kick with a 4.1 second average hang time, but only a 22 yard average. with a 2 1/2 step kick (very rare in HS / college because it take more time) i had a 3.8 second hang time average and a 36 yard average.

i kicked lob style with almost no spin on the ball, hence the short distance. the redeeming quality was there was never a return on any of my punts. all were fair catches because of the cover team being right there.


our team (the JV team not the varsity team) was so terrible that 2/3 the time we faked our punts n a attempt to make up the 30 points we were behind. our record was 2-10 for the season.


the start of my junior year in high school i was in the hospital with juvenile rumatory arthritis (later to be diagnosed specifically as still's disease.

i missed 3/4 of my junoir year, and was not active in athletics again in my teenage or adult life.


during my rehab in limited time at school i learned to play chess. i had 4 study halls each my last 1/2 of junoir year and all of my senior year. during that time i did play alot of chess even with the principal, and superintendant of the school.


all this doent disguise the fact soccer is for studmuffingots



the fact i was raised by a single mother through grammer school, and not introduced to organized sports until high school probably is what show my lack of "terminology" for some things, but during those early years i learned respect for the fellow man, and how to be sincere and honest in life. i learned how to be a gentelman, and had to learn on my own when NOT to be. saying **** about me and my upbringing is a time NOT to be.
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« Reply #62 on: December 02, 2004, 06:34:22 AM »
So basically you were a studmuffin until you were ill?:D ;)


Joking aside, football is great!:)   Sissy sport? maybe the way some countries play it.
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« Reply #63 on: December 02, 2004, 07:09:02 AM »
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because its played with a cricket bat and cricket ball, duh!


how long does it take to harvest cricket balls?  wouldn't it be easier to use scissors instead of a bat?

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« Reply #64 on: December 02, 2004, 07:26:34 AM »
who really cares!!! its like this.. football(aka soccer) are guys who run up and down an extremely large field for a really long time trying to out play the defense and score the ball into the net... the everyday joe cant do this for as long as these players do.... so IMO you cant call it a sissy sport.. football (American) you have men who some weigh as much as a small car trying to kill the guy with the ball... same concept as stated above as trying to out play the defense to get the ball into the endzone.  wearing all the pads and running play after play isnt an easy feat.... so IMO you cant call it a sissy sport. so all the east vs. west or the north vs. south guys.... find a happy medium already.. geeze.:aok

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« Reply #65 on: December 02, 2004, 07:34:10 AM »
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.. find a happy medium already.. geeze.:aok


it's called...

rugby.

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« Reply #66 on: December 02, 2004, 07:35:18 AM »
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it's called...

rugby.

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« Reply #67 on: December 02, 2004, 10:27:46 AM »
American football, known in the United States simply as football, is a competitive team sport that rewards players' speed, agility, skill, tactics, and brute strength as they run and throw a ball, and block, tackle, and outrun each other, trying to force the ball further into their opponent's territory and ultimately into the endzone.

It is one of the more physically demanding sports, with a great deal of physical contact occurring on every play as players often weighing 300 pounds (~135 kg) or more shove each other with all of their strength, and with a clearly defined front line, moving up and down the field, separating the offensive and defensive squads.

American football does not much resemble soccer, the sport which most people outside the U.S. call "football". Consequently, American Football is best known internationally as "American Football". However, both of these games have their origins in varieties of football played in the United Kingdom in the mid-19th century, and American football is directly descended from rugby football, usually known simply as "Rugby". According to an apocryphal story rugby football began with a football game at Rugby School in England in 1823 when a player named William Webb Ellis suddenly ran with the ball only to be tackled by an opponent. Contrary to popular belief rugby football had always permitted handling the ball but had banned running with the ball. Rule breaking gradually became increasingly common until it became the accepted norm. Thus was born the game of Rugby Football.

The game progressed from that point and was introduced to North America from Canada, by the British Army garrison in Montreal, which played a series of games with McGill University. In 1874, McGill arranged to play a few games in the United States, at Harvard, which liked the new game so much that it became a feature of the Ivy League. Both Canadian and American football evolved from this point. The U.S. game still has some things in common with the two varieties of rugby, especially rugby league

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« Reply #68 on: December 02, 2004, 10:33:42 AM »
What I cant understand about football is how anyone can enjoy it with all those breaks for adds and stuff. That actually goes for all programs shown on american TV. Nothing but commercial breaks all the time.

How long is a game really if you didnt have all those commercial breaks?

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« Reply #69 on: December 02, 2004, 10:36:20 AM »
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What I cant understand about football is how anyone can enjoy it with all those breaks for adds and stuff. That actually goes for all programs shown on american TV. Nothing but commercial breaks all the time.

How long is a game really if you didnt have all those commercial breaks?


Five minutes

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« Reply #70 on: December 02, 2004, 10:40:22 AM »
Thats not much at all. I think a soccer match is over in 90 but there is a 15 or 20 min break after 45.

If I had to choose between american football and soccer I would take the american variant (- all the breaks).

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« Reply #71 on: December 02, 2004, 10:50:31 AM »
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What I cant understand about football is how anyone can enjoy it with all those breaks for adds and stuff. That actually goes for all programs shown on american TV. Nothing but commercial breaks all the time.

How long is a game really if you didnt have all those commercial breaks?


There have been a few superbowls, where the commercials have been more entertaining...  

One of my favorites was budbowl I  :)

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« Reply #72 on: December 02, 2004, 10:53:44 AM »
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What I cant understand about football is how anyone can enjoy it with all those breaks for adds and stuff. That actually goes for all programs shown on american TV. Nothing but commercial breaks all the time.

How long is a game really if you didnt have all those commercial breaks?


They never delay the game for the TV ads. American Professional Football is played in quarters of 15 minutes each with a 15 minute halftime break. The clock only ticks off actual in play time. A game typically lasts about 3 hours.
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« Reply #73 on: December 02, 2004, 11:01:45 AM »
The average time of each play in American football is probably between 3-8 seconds once the ball is put in play. However if you haven't played it that may seem like a short amount of time. There are times in my past college football career when 5-7 seconds seemed like a lifetime while I was blocking a guy waiting on my quarterback to decide who to throw the ball to on a pass play.

Not only that but its terribly complicated once you look at it from a players perspective. In soccer (football everywhere else) the object is fairly simple although athletically it can be challenging as I can only imagine. However in football with the way the game has changed in the last 20-25 years it has become increasingly more difficult because of the way offensive and defensive alignments have started being used.

For example when I played football as an offensive lineman we had to be able to "read" (based on watching film and practicing against possible setups) what the defense was preparing to do for each situation. In having that knowledge of the situation and what the defense could do we adjusted our blocking schemes on the field to hopefully contain what the defense was trying to do.

Its hard to put that into words instead of being able to explain it using diagrams and all the other visual aids. From what I can gather there are several American football clubs that have started in Germany and England that have begun building interest over there and have come here to recruit coaches to spend time over there in Europe to teach these guys how to play football. I keep hoping that one day my phone will ring with an offer like that. It would be an experience of a lifetime I think to teach to a true virgin audience and to watch them prepare and play for the first time.
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« Reply #74 on: December 02, 2004, 11:08:01 AM »
So there is 5 x 15 mins followed by 30 min break and then another 5 x 15?

That is 180 mins total.