P38

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Originally posted by Karnak
I don't think that matters to the majority of the AH players.  They got their kill, then auger and get a new '38.

Where's the penalty?

Wrong again. To those who fly that aggressively and that close to the edge, in the P-38, the object of the exercise is to win and get home alive. I've limped back over three sectors on one engine, and even fought on the way back with a plane shot to pieces. If I hit the ground its because the plane was shot out from under me. The same applies to Murdr, AKAK, Guppy35/Dan/Slack/Rust, Silat, Widewing, and the others who want the autoretract removed. The rest couldn't give a damn, they don't know and don't care. The majority doesn't know or care about it.

[Murdr]

Originally posted by Karnak
I don't think that matters to the majority of the AH players.  They got their kill, then auger and get a new '38.

Where's the penalty?

I'll look forward to seeing your supporting evidence that "the majority of AH players" behave as you say.  Granted there are pleanty of boneheads around, but the same 3 pork auger dweebs you see lawn dart 100 times a night, dont count as 100 players.

[Murdr]

Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
The same applies to Murdr, AKAK, Guppy35/Dan/Slack/Rust, Silat, Widewing, and the others who want the autoretract removed.

Technically I dont want it removed, just a checkbox option like stall limiter, auto-takeoff and combat trim.

[Guppy35]

Originally posted by Karnak
I don't think that matters to the majority of the AH players.  They got their kill, then auger and get a new '38.

Where's the penalty?

LOL   I think you are confused.  That's just me in my 38G dying over and over and over.  Not the majority of players.  Just me leaving 38G parts all over the maps

I do try to auger with style however

Dan/Slack

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Originally posted by Murdr
Technically I dont want it removed, just a checkbox option like stall limiter, auto-takeoff and combat trim.

Agreed. I would like to see it apply to all planes, and I'd like to see it as a selectable option for those who are either new and lack experience, or like to fly without managing that particular system. I look at it like turning off easy mode, to allow you to push the plane to the edge, and manage your systems and your risks manually.

[killnu]

The same applies to Murdr, AKAK, Guppy35/Dan/Slack/Rust, Silat, Widewing,

i feel like im sitting at the kids table at thanksgiving dinner...

[Guppy35]

Originally posted by killnu
i feel like im sitting at the kids table at thanksgiving dinner...

Yeah but you always get the food first so it's better anyway

Dan/Slack

[Karnak]

Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
Wrong again. To those who fly that aggressively and that close to the edge, in the P-38, the object of the exercise is to win and get home alive. I've limped back over three sectors on one engine, and even fought on the way back with a plane shot to pieces. If I hit the ground its because the plane was shot out from under me. The same applies to Murdr, AKAK, Guppy35/Dan/Slack/Rust, Silat, Widewing, and the others who want the autoretract removed. The rest couldn't give a damn, they don't know and don't care. The majority doesn't know or care about it.

Mr. Hilts, the vast majority of the players who fly the P-38 couldn't give a rats bellybutton about it's history.  They fly it because it is the best at what it does.  The same is true of every other common plane in game too.  You may want to push it as far as you can and RTB, but many others do not.  Don't judge all P-38 fliers by your standards.

FWIW, I love bring a plane that has been shot to hell all the way home.  It is a challenge that I too enjoy.

That does not mean that you should be able to push your plane just that little bit extra though.   It will always be just a little bit more, if the flaps had held just a little bit more I'd have made the shot and if it is modified so that you'd make that shot again, there'll be another shot that is just a bit harder that you'll almost make, and the cycle of whining about the P-38 will start all over again.

[BUG_EAF322]

I readed somewhere that the FM2 had real autoretracting flaps The pilot could set his flap for combat at higher speeds . When he reached lower speeds they would come down.

As the speed increases they would employ
under the pressure of the speeding air.

I wouldn't whine if this is going to be implemented for this plane.