Please explain since you have yet to do so. Why up a plane if your afraid people will know what your flying? What's the difference if they disable skins and get the same information that way? What are you going to protest the disabling of skins too?
Quote the word 'afraid' as used by me.
Who cares about 'skins'? Quote what I said about 'skins'.
It's simple if your afraid to fly it because someone will know what it is then don't fly it. Would it suit you best if they implemented a system that designated just if it were a fighter, bomber,and transport? Then it'd be "fair" and wouldn't offend the poor soles that choose to up a particular airframe and forbid to take responsibility for making such a decision.
Quote what I said about the new icons.
I specifically said that they may have an impact on early plane usage. Anything above and beyond that point in this thread has nothing to do with me.
Now search my career stats and tell me what planes I fly.
You make assumptions about the made up thoughts in your head. How about dealing with what I actually type and not the about fantasy discussion you are having in your head.
Since you seem to think it's your right to be able to hide behind an icon. It is also the other persons right to know what your flying. You want the icon system to help you but at the same time your selfishness puts blinders on that makes you incapable of seeing this system helps the newer guys by knowing what your flying. Even if they don't know every last in and out of a particular airframe it can assist them. But again your to selfish to see anything other than how this system hurts you and not how it helps the rest of the newer pilots. I will say though your stance doesn't surprise me as it seems the community as a whole is almost always thinking me me me and not the other way around.
Quote where I said I wanted to hide behind icons. Selfish? As I said what planes do I fly in AH? Innominates career stats will help there. Wotan / Batz / Helvik are the three niks I have used in AH.
You still haven't told your in game nik? And you make claims about hiding...
My reply to
your claim that anything other then exact plane type icons is 'gamey' or 'unrealistic' was to point out the fact that in real life pilots used certain techniques that allowed them to hide in plain view.
Don't equate a rebuttal of your claims with advocacy. I made it clear in replies to Levi what my opinion is toward the new icons. Go back and read it.
Your problem is you read and then can't comprehend what is written. Or if you do you try like hell to re-define the discussion around things that are completely irrelevant.
Midnight,
You might not see it, but you are making that comparison. There is no furball with with only one bandit (I.e. a single 109E) against a mixed group of opposing aircraft. So, no matter how maneuverable the 109E is, it's not going to get lost as you suggest... not in AH. Every pilot has INSTANT control of where they are looking, regardless of turn or Gs (exception blacking out) and the icon makes the aircraft instantly discernable from all other friendlies. I don't care who the pilot is, he won't get lost in the fight.
Sure it will, since are you a furballer anyway?
In a real AH furball, having many friendly and enemy aircraft at once, it is not probable that a single 109E or Spit I or whatever is going to get everyone clammoring to kill it first. In fact, I believe that most pilots will discount the presence of it in order to give priority to all the late war aircraft that are in the same furball and presenting a much greater threat.
Again since when are you a 'furballer'?
What Marseille learned and did was also repeated individually and in groups by the LW on the eastern front as well. It's your squad mates contention that this is 'gamey' when it happened in real life.
I will dig some more quotes up from other LW pilots when I get home from work.
Maybe so, but now you are inferring that the spit or 109 in question had not been seen at all previous to the pilot in front noticing it on his six. In the case of said spit or 109 being at greater range than 800, the pilot still has no idea which type it is and will act (most likely) in the assumation that it is a later war spit or 109. In the case where said spit or 109 is already within 800 before getting noticed, the defensive pilot is already in trouble because if a 109E or Spit I is that close, he is probably too slow to run now and is certain to be out-turned.
Again since when have you ever been in a furball? Urchin described the situation several times and he is right.
A Spit I looses this suprise as soon as he shoots, or if the pilot he shoots hasn't seen him, as soon as the tickle of 303s is heard. The knowing to push Neg G's to stall the spitI's engine is not reactionary to most AH players anyway. Most will break into a max-g turn, which a spitI can easliy follow.
And as I stated in my post, let's see some before and after stats on the 109E and Spit I before whining up a huge controvesy about this.
Again Urchin described the situation above. As I have said folks react to the icon even prior to AH2 and they will after. In the past they see the '109' tag and since the G-10 was the 109 preferred most their experience would be to break rather then just nose low and extend. Same with the Spit 1 or Hurri 1. Folks see the icon and based on their experience expect to get a full salvo of Hizookas.
Once they break they give these early planes the opportunity to kill them.
The break also provide a large plane form shot as they pull lead, which they are able to do.
As Urchin pointed out above very few folks fly these aircraft to begin with and they account for around .05% of all kills in AH over a tour. I have said these aircraft are rare as well, go back and read it. A drop of .01 percent is significant in terms of overall numbers in regards to these types of aircraft..
The only point I brought up was the effect of the new icons may have on these very early aircraft. All the other garbage is a result of folks like you and your squad mate being unable to stick with the subject at hand with out going off on irrelevant tangents.
I will post some quotes of LW pilots in the east this evening but this thread is running in circles now, 412th guys make up stuff and then I type a 500 word reply.
