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« Reply #30 on: March 01, 2005, 11:10:21 PM »
Ummm... manslaughter is homicide too.
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« Reply #31 on: March 01, 2005, 11:16:31 PM »
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Ummm... manslaughter is homicide too.


homicide is the killing of any human, accidental or not.

Murder is the deliberate act of killining another human. People who murder need to be executed.

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« Reply #32 on: March 01, 2005, 11:23:52 PM »
Ahem... If I understand correctly, murder isn't necessarily deliberate. It's the presence of malice that makes the difference.

For example... if you hit and kill someone with your car while your running from the bank robbery you committed, it's murder, not manslaughter. Now, if you do the same thing, but you're running from a soccer game, it's not necessarily murder.

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« Reply #33 on: March 01, 2005, 11:35:21 PM »
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I think anyone 14 or older who murders another should be put to death.


summarily.

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« Reply #34 on: March 01, 2005, 11:39:01 PM »
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Ahem... If I understand correctly, murder isn't necessarily deliberate. It's the presence of malice that makes the difference.

For example... if you hit and kill someone with your car while your running from the bank robbery you committed, it's murder, not manslaughter. Now, if you do the same thing, but you're running from a soccer game, it's not necessarily murder.

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If you are running to evade a felony and kill somone, that's murder in my book.

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« Reply #35 on: March 01, 2005, 11:44:38 PM »
You're going to need a book to define all the different homicides. ;)
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« Reply #36 on: March 01, 2005, 11:47:34 PM »
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You're going to need a book to define all the different homicides. ;)


well, how do you define "homicide"? I have defined murder, let's hear your definition of homicide.

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« Reply #37 on: March 01, 2005, 11:48:51 PM »
Actually... your definition of murder is a little thin.


Homicide is far simpler. It's the killing of another human.
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« Reply #38 on: March 02, 2005, 02:40:42 AM »
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For example... if you hit and kill someone with your car while your running from the bank robbery you committed, it's murder, not manslaughter. Now, if you do the same thing, but you're running from a soccer game, it's not necessarily murder.

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Define running! :rofl
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« Reply #39 on: March 02, 2005, 06:29:52 AM »
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Another person robs a home and the owners confront the robber.....the robber shoots them dead. That's murder.


Surely the home owner should have his estate seized because he didn't own a gun and failed to protect himself?

Maybe not.

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« Reply #40 on: March 02, 2005, 07:21:29 AM »
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Finally the Supreme Conservative Court gives a ruling that is beyond question.... correct. WTG.

Here are excerpts from the Supreme Court opinion outlawing the death penalty for offenders under 18 when their crimes were committed:


You and 5 of them are very WRONG!

This was not based on law but their opinion of what other countries think is right.

I'm not saying we should fry a 6 year old but if you have a kid who is 15-16-17 and he goes out and kills it should be left up to the state he is in to decide.
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« Reply #41 on: March 02, 2005, 07:53:14 AM »
Violence should be punished way more heavily than it is now.

There's no excuse for anyone to attack a stranger for example like in the pizza joint case. That kind of lunatics should be put away permanently.

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« Reply #42 on: March 02, 2005, 08:10:22 AM »
curval... the owners died.. that is punishment enough for not owning a gun... course if they live and their children are killed... well...

I guess knowing they could have prevented it would be punishment enough?

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« Reply #43 on: March 02, 2005, 08:13:22 AM »
So I guess Nuke and his buds in here will be more than happy to lower the drinking age to 15. Since they are so mature and in charge of their sense of reason...

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« Reply #44 on: March 02, 2005, 08:33:02 AM »
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Ahem... Does O'Connor actually believe that the death penalty is a deterrant?


It is.

Know anyone thats been put to death under the death penalty that has ever mudered someone afterwards?
Cause I dont.

On the other hand I can show you plenty of instances of people who didnt get the death penalty that have killed again.

So yea. I'd say its a deterrant:)
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