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AKSeaWulfe

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« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2001, 06:12:00 AM »
Cool Gunslayer.. the mp3 you have on the page only lets me download about 30KB of it before it cuts off. Nice page though.


Now about a "Pearl Harbor" scenario... what drugs are you on?
The only thing the US guys would be able to do for a Pearl Harbor scenario is sit on their cans drinking coffee and watch the japanese fly right on in and bomb the hell outta our destroyers and escorts and then blow up our airfields and strafe our planes.

Oh boy, we can launch 2 P40s.. wooptie doo.
-SW

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« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2001, 06:25:00 AM »
Yup, was in the BoB event in WB, miss those Historical big events and the HA arena.
Should get more Historical Events soon though, Afrika Corps was great fun.

 

 

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« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2001, 07:30:00 AM »
Oh yeah, scenarios are the only thing I miss from WarBirds. AK was a blast, even with wrong planes, becouse we badly needed a scenario. But forget good scenarios till we have a good planeset. 1944 scenarios? Bodenplatte? Defence of the Reich with FW's climbing up to 25K just to be eaten alive by USAAF and RAF escort? 1944-45 CV actions with Zekes butchered by late F4U's and Cats? No one will fly *only* those scenarios for a long time ... Oh yeah, let us smoke and drink something strong and we'll take off  


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« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2001, 08:02:00 AM »
 I hear you Fidd. And I'm sure Pyro isn't unaware of what many peopl want either. One thing about AH is some folks will be really happy with every release while others need to learn patience aka pissed off.      IMO, based on having been here since day one, HTC has EVERY intention of modelling mid and early war aircraft. They chose the way that they have for many reasons, none of which was a coin flip or use of a "Magic 8" ball.

 Here's some good reading. IMO it is one of THE best discussions I've read anywhere in the last year. DoK Gonzo in particular I agree whole heartedly with. Others sound smart but are very narrow minded top say the least and cannot see a big picture. But then we all have different opinions now don't we?

 It's about the only time I can recall recommending an AGW topic  too    
 http://agw.dogfighter.com/agw//Forum3/HTML/018401.html

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« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2001, 08:06:00 AM »
Stop torpedoing this thread with your "early war plane" stuff folks!

Metallica is okish but why waste your time with 'em when you can listen to King's X or Tool?  

btw one favorite memory back in a WB scenario was killing two hurricanes in a single pass - good 'ol Me109E  

Hmmm, if AH had them, would it be even more fun to kill hurries in a Ta152?

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« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2001, 08:13:00 AM »
Well its kinda obvious if you think about it.  

Lets think... why would HTC be adding a bunch of "what if" or very low usage planes in 1.06, ie Ta152, Arado, Tempest (and the first one to mention the La7 in this capacity gets slapped with a wet mackrel   since there were 5,700+ of them)

Last version HTC rolled out the Perk Point System (PPS) concept and its framework.

What good is the PPS without planes that would normally be perked?

So thats why your seeing them this version, and the others are just logical extensions of filling out the late war planeset that HTC has started with.

Sorry guys, but I just think it will be a while before you see alot of "early war" planes. I figure HTC will finish the late war (along with a few perks here and there), and then start working on the midwar long before you see a "BoB" planeset.

Edit: Oh yah, and while I like Metallica, I am much more of a Tool fan. Of course I have lately taken a real liking too Papa Roach too.

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« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2001, 08:54:00 AM »
 p.s to my last....

 This is by no means meant to be disrespectful to banana or Daddog AT ALL and I have no idea what the current personal relationship is between Pyro, HiTech and DoK Gonzo but I think they would be foolish not to offer DoK a free account or two and ask him involved with the AH scenarios.

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« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2001, 08:58:00 AM »
FWIW,

It seemed to me that every other weekend there was some damned BoB scenario or weekend warrior in WBs.  I got abolutely sick of spits and 109s.

Hell, they could have named WBs BoB and been nearly on the mark.

I flew WBs from apr96 thru sept99 and played in three major events.  For me I prefer the main arena. Scenarios are too damned boring and the servers always seemed to be porked with mass warpage and discos.  Just never got a decent return in timed invested from them.

I just wish these new guys would engage their brains and do some thinking before making heated comments about AH lack of early war pea shooters.  And for anyone to assume AH is somehow stagnent just shows how ignorant they are on the subject.

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« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2001, 08:59:00 AM »
Well, I'm not taking anything away from Dok Gonzo, since he is admittedly a Scenario god. But he also runs them as a god, very autocrat and on a whim. His and his only.

He doesn't play well with others.  

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« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2001, 09:02:00 AM »
Doing the early war plane set just because everyone else has isn't really a superb reason.  It seems HTC is trying to fill the current void.  I can't fault them for that.

I have no special needs for an early war plane set.  I do have a need for an early war plane.

Come on HTC.. give us a P40

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« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2001, 09:12:00 AM »
Copy that Verm. My pov is different from not having been there. When I think about it what you say sounds very probable  

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« Reply #26 on: February 23, 2001, 09:13:00 AM »
Yeager, 1940-42 so called peashooters belong to a balanced phase of the war. I'm sorry if you didnt enjoy WB scenarios at all. Perhaps flying Main Arena doesnt need engaging brain.
"And one of the finest aircraft I ever flew was the Macchi C.205. Oh, beautiful. And here you had the perfect combination of italian styling and german engineering .... it really was a delight to fly ... and we did tests on it and were most impressed." - Captain Eric Brown

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« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2001, 09:24:00 AM »
No reason to get all upity Gatt. The reason for Yeager's OPINION is that it gets extremely repetitive when you see the same scenario or scenarios over and over again.

The only scenarios I participated in were the Tuskegee Airmen event, and two pacific events. One where I was flying a Ki43 for island defense in the south pacific and the other was to intercept some B17s or their escorts that were bombing germany.

-SW

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« Reply #28 on: February 23, 2001, 10:10:00 AM »
Please not forget that not everyone has had the chance to participate in an early scenario like the BoB.  I for one hasn't and I would relish the opportunity.  But I am fairly happy with AH at the moment, we've had a good supply of aircraft and other features, still not quite sure about the perk system though.  I would dearly like some early planes like the Hurricane mostly because it's my favourite aircraft (109E nice too) and as mentioned above, not played an early planeset yet!  

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« Reply #29 on: February 23, 2001, 10:17:00 AM »
Its allright guys. Has been an hard working week here  
"And one of the finest aircraft I ever flew was the Macchi C.205. Oh, beautiful. And here you had the perfect combination of italian styling and german engineering .... it really was a delight to fly ... and we did tests on it and were most impressed." - Captain Eric Brown