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Offline Replicant

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« Reply #135 on: April 30, 2005, 09:21:18 AM »
I agree Beetle.  All credit to Airbus, they've put a lot of effort into this aircraft and I'm sure it will be a success.  Afterall they build aircraft after a lot of analysis and research into what is required.  I think they're a lot more qualified than any of us to say whether it's what people want or not.

Two major factors come into play if you're flying a long distance trip.   The price of the ticket and how many stops/time in the air.  For the casual passenger most will be willing to sacrifice the latter for a cheaper ticket and I think the A380 can make flights cheaper (in the long run when more of their fleet are equipped with that type aircraft, and also if the airline is willing to take advantage of being able to lower the price of the ticket).
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« Reply #136 on: April 30, 2005, 10:59:16 AM »
Asia-Pacific. That's where the Airbus is going to be a success: high volume of passengers, long distances.

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« Reply #137 on: April 30, 2005, 05:16:36 PM »
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Asia-Pacific. That's where the Airbus is going to be a success: high volume of passengers, long distances.


...And people small enough to be put in in thousands.. :)

I like the plane but I hate firms putting those benches so close to eachother so my legs are tightly fit between my bellybutton and next bench. Not very nice...

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« Reply #138 on: April 30, 2005, 05:18:55 PM »
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...And people small enough to be put in in thousands.. :)

I like the plane but I hate firms putting those benches so close to eachother so my legs are tightly fit between my bellybutton and next bench. Not very nice...


lay off the sossage and vodka and you will fit just fine! :D

J/K i know what you mean, but in the standard 1. edition of the 380 there will be plenty of room. Its only if they fit the max amount of passengers (tourist style) that it will be cramped.

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« Reply #139 on: April 30, 2005, 08:25:48 PM »
Airlines always stuffs in more benches than in the 'stantard' setup :I

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« Reply #140 on: May 01, 2005, 06:19:25 AM »
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lay off the sossage and vodka and you will fit just fine! :D

J/K i know what you mean, but in the standard 1. edition of the 380 there will be plenty of room. Its only if they fit the max amount of passengers (tourist style) that it will be cramped.


RJ85 is quite small, which is used by Blue1(regional jet) but AB320 gives plenty of room for my legs..

at 6´ 1" and 183 pounds im no too big..all muscle ;) (what all..)

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« Reply #141 on: May 01, 2005, 11:41:03 AM »
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Asia-Pacific. That's where the Airbus is going to be a success: high volume of passengers, long distances.
Correctamundo. I suspect a great many will be flown between Europe and Australia. Virgin Atlantic, Air France and Lufthansa have orders for 6, 10 and 15 respectively. Qantas has ordered 12. Emirates placed the largest order of all - 43.

Total orders for A380 worlwide stand at 139.

The only American company to place orders has been Federal Express (10).

The bulk of passenger flight service demands within the US will continue to be met by an assortment of tiddlers like the MD80.

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« Reply #142 on: May 01, 2005, 10:02:37 PM »
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The only American company to place orders has been Federal Express (10).

The bulk of passenger flight service demands within the US will continue to be met by an assortment of tiddlers like the MD80.


The UPS has also ordered 10 A380's and options for 10 more.

the US markets will not need a big plane in numbers, maybe for cross continent flights.
However people needs to fly outside of the US too.
Why does everyone talk of the US markets as if it'd be only domestic business?

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« Reply #143 on: May 02, 2005, 04:29:00 AM »
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the US markets will not need a big plane in numbers, maybe for cross continent flights.
However people needs to fly outside of the US too.
Why does everyone talk of the US markets as if it'd be only domestic business?
It's possible that Virgin Atlantic will want to use their 6 A380s on routes to the US, but I would not have thought that many US airports would want to upgrade to A380 readiness.  So far, New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco and Miami are committed to upgrading in order to deal with international traffic, but no way will A380 be used on internal flights between those cities. For one thing, there could be a lot of business users on those flights, and as Mr. Toad has said earlier, it's important for business users to have a choice of times to make their journeys. That means more flights, using smaller planes.

My guess is that Virgin Atlantic will use its A380 on routes like London/Tokyo, Jo'burg in South Africa, Kuala Lumpur, Hong Kong and Sydney.

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« Reply #144 on: May 02, 2005, 04:46:51 AM »
Beetle, an interesting issue is what happens in the event of a diversion airfield being required?  It'll most likely have to carry a full load of fuel for every flight incase it requires to divert somewhere that can actually fit the aircraft in.
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« Reply #145 on: May 02, 2005, 05:02:53 AM »
AFAIK it can land easily on a 45 m wide runway. It might not be able to use to taxiways but it can land on smaller airports just fine in case of an emergency.

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« Reply #146 on: May 02, 2005, 05:05:35 AM »
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Beetle, an interesting issue is what happens in the event of a diversion airfield being required?  It'll most likely have to carry a full load of fuel for every flight incase it requires to divert somewhere that can actually fit the aircraft in.


I would expect that any arifield large enough to take the 747 can take the A380 in an emergency or something. They are just not large enough to properly "dock" adn load/unload passengers the conventional way.

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« Reply #147 on: May 02, 2005, 05:09:51 AM »
Well, that's good news!! :)
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« Reply #148 on: May 02, 2005, 08:16:30 AM »
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I would expect that any arifield large enough to take the 747 can take the A380 in an emergency or something. They are just not large enough to properly "dock" adn load/unload passengers the conventional way.


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« Reply #149 on: May 02, 2005, 12:20:27 PM »
:rofl

especially the "Monsouir"
I knew it was not a good idea for Air France to hire Mohamad ;)