Author Topic: Serial numbers on bullets? (Read 3578 times)

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #135 on:** April 28, 2005, 05:28:37 PM »

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car owners are not expected to regester their gas consumption nor to have a monitoring device in the vehicle that reports the way it is used.
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Is there a suggestion that guns have such a device? Of what sort? Sounds a bit science fiction, to me.

Did you even bother to read the post before you started spouting this BS?

Skydancer · « **Reply #136 on:** April 28, 2005, 06:11:00 PM »

"Why do you participate in gun threads when you clearly disdain them and or know nothing about guns or gun laws in the US?"

Know what GtORA2 you are right! I'm off. Too boreing by half!

Rino · « **Reply #137 on:** April 28, 2005, 06:23:07 PM »

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Then you should have to have your gun retested on a yearly basis. And if it is altered other than by normal wear, guess you should lose your gun. That is something I would be happy to let my taxes pay for.

Tell you what slick, you pay me for my time and expense for
your rediculous gun control efforts and maybe I'd care if you
were happy or not.

Toad · « **Reply #138 on:** April 28, 2005, 06:26:42 PM »

Please do get it right. It seems that's very difficult for you.

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Let me get this right, You were against letting shiavo die because there was a chance she might not be brain dead,

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No, you have that wrong.

I was for letting the parents take care of her as long as they wished as long as they did it with private funds.

So, obviously you failed to understand my position on that.

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you are against letting women have abortions for whatever reason they choose because its not known when a fetus becomes a human,

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No, you have that wrong too.

If you actually read what I said, you'll find I said the woman has the right to choose. I personally think she'll be held to account by a higher power, but that's just my opinion.

I also said she should have the right to pay for her choice without using public funds... just like the Schiavo parents. Private funding for choice.

Lastly, I did say it is impossible to know when a fetus becomes human. Try to refute that if you like.

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yet you are against anything to do with guns that might possibly help stop or catch a murderer,

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Incorrect again. I'm against anything that is clearly not going to work. Serial numbers on bullets is one of those things.

You doubt it? You don't know you're own government. At one time I held an FFL and sold firearms. I kept records. When I closed the business, I had to send all records to the BATF.

Theorhetically, if a gun I sold was found at a crime scene, they'd ask the manufacturer for the name of the distributor it went to. Then they'd ask the distributor which retailer it went to. Then they'd ask me who I sold it to and I would reply THEY had the records. The icing on the cake is that BATF has NEVER catalogued the records turned in by FFL dealerst that stopped selling. They have them all in various warehouses but they are not sorted by date, dealer, state or any other means.

In short, this would be a dead end.

But YOU think the serial numbers on bullets would be different.

It's laughable. We've had recordkeeping on gun serial numbers for nearly 40 years but it hasn't impacted gun crime to any significant degree. Now, suddenly, bullet registration will help.

I'm amazed at the gullibility of people when it comes to this topic. I guess the root cause is simply ignorance of how things work in real life.

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(which doesnt stop the crime because its already been committed)?

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But registering serial numbers of bullets WILL stop the crime before it is committed? Please explain how that will work.

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anti-anything that has to do with lowering the number of murders by firearms.

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Wrong again. I'm just anti-stupid feelgood ideas supported by people that apparently don't do any research or think the idea through.

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By the way I pay taxes so its my money as well.

Fund all the non-workable ideas you like....privately. I'd prefer they spent money on things that do work.

Skydancer · « **Reply #139 on:** April 28, 2005, 06:49:48 PM »

Toad is a pompous plonker!:lol

Sorry just had to do that. He won't care he's got me on ignore anyhow. right back to that JD.

Jackal1 · « **Reply #140 on:** April 28, 2005, 08:02:42 PM »

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Originally posted by Raider179
I answered the question earlier but I guess you didnt read it. If it solves 1 homicide or prevents 1 its worth it. Hassle or not. BTW you are aware they have computers now right? Don't need paper for it.

The point was here slick that I think you have no idea what costs and how many steps and people something like this takes.
Solving one homicide is a good example you came up with. One would be about the limit that could be expected and even then the key word is "solved", meaning after the fact. The money and effort would better spent on "prevention" before the fact in the first place. All this outrageously stupid law will do is add additional costs to the law abiding gun owner, add more hassles on the very ones who can prevent crime and then will fade away into oblivion with time, money and effort lost.

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Chips in handguns I have seen. From what I hear law enforcement is waiting until they work properly every time.

Which will be never just like this assanine attempt we are discussing.
Career criminals will not be carrying weapons with chips nor will they be using ammo with laser imprinted serial #s.
The entire idea is totaly aburd and would be laugable if it wasn`t for the fact that some people out there actualy is spending law abiding tax payers money to fund this crap.
The other thing that definetly makes it unlaughable is the uninformed and totaly lacking in the common sense department people that support such utter stupidity.

Jackal1 · « **Reply #141 on:** April 28, 2005, 08:06:09 PM »

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Suprise suprise suprise.

Skydancer is posting to a thread and spouting nothing but his typical inane mindless, BS.

Hehe.
Yep, that`s a real shocker allright.
I`m looking for my nitro tabs now.

You know it`s really been surprising to me lately to see someone living in another country show so much obvious jealousy towards the U.S. and spend so much time worrying and just plain biatching about what goes on in this country. Must be one hell of a dull place where he lives.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #142 on:** April 28, 2005, 10:49:28 PM »

Jackal
I think it more along the lines of mommy and daddy didn’t pay enough attention to him as a kid.

So he posts crap here for the attention.

He may say something intelegent once a week, but that’s being generous

GREENTENERAL · « **Reply #143 on:** April 28, 2005, 11:10:36 PM »

personally, I'm all for keeping guns out of the hands of criminals in the first place, By not allowing for the possibility of a repeat offender to exist.

The idea of serial#s on bullets is great, but i'm still not certain of what that may entail.

I've heard that the UK has a DNA bank for all it's citizens, and that it works well. If it does, I'm all for that. It may help lessen the need for more stringent actions in other areas. That is if we can decide what to do with criminals after they are caught.

Toad · « **Reply #144 on:** April 28, 2005, 11:29:34 PM »

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The idea of serial#s on bullets is great, but i'm still not certain of what that may entail.

Well, in that case I have SEVERAL really, really, good and effective ideas. I'd like your monetary support immediately and I'll tell you what those ideas entail after I get a few mill... er, after I work them out in detail.

Jackal1 · « **Reply #145 on:** April 28, 2005, 11:29:49 PM »

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Jackal
I think it more along the lines of mommy and daddy didn’t pay enough attention to him as a kid.

I think it may have been the old head drop routine.

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He may say something intelegent once a week, but that’s being generous

I must have been out sick on them days.

GREENTENERAL · « **Reply #146 on:** April 28, 2005, 11:38:40 PM »

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Well, in that case I have SEVERAL really, really, good and effective ideas. I'd like your monetary support immediately and I'll tell you what those ideas entail after I get a few mill... er, after I work them out in detail.

Yes, I figure it is a bit like communism, it looks good on paper, but does not take into account human nature.

Torque · « **Reply #147 on:** April 29, 2005, 12:00:55 AM »

it's silly beyond belief, they'd be better off taxing ammo to fund abortions, it's a far better means of controlling crime.

Vulcan · « **Reply #148 on:** April 29, 2005, 12:06:26 AM »

LMAO at this one.

Remember when I told you if you didn't find a happy medium between the pro and anti gun groups you'd start getting whacko knee-jerk laws trying to be passed... noooooooooo you guys didn't believe me.

Toad · « **Reply #149 on:** April 29, 2005, 12:10:58 AM »

Long before this board existed, all we got from the other side was whacko kneejerk ideas.

Just look through this thread and see people actually getting sucked in by this one.

It'll never end. There's no accomodating crazy people. They only come up with crazier and crazier ideas.

Torque may be on to something, but I'd make it mandatory reversible chemical sterilization for everyone between the ages of 10 and 30. That ought to slow things down. We can let it run for 20 years and adjust as necessary.... oh, yah.. .and put tiny microscopic chip serial numbers on every spermatozoa and egg after age 30. It'll be worth the cost.