Author Topic: Turning The Tables George Galloway (Read 6231 times)

NUKE · « **Reply #255 on:** May 21, 2005, 05:39:33 PM »

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Originally posted by Nash
I refuse to believe that you spelled "hater" wrong in a sentence accusing someone else of spelling bad. No way.

You're playing a role. You have to be. When you get together with Steve do you laugh about how big of a moron you act as on the internets?

butterin' troll.

You cannot support any of your views without looking like a retard.

You have said that the Iraq war was about oil, then you forget that you ever took that stance?

Do you still think that the Iraq war was about oil?

Thrawn · « **Reply #256 on:** May 21, 2005, 05:51:55 PM »

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If that was the case, and we control the Iraqi oil then why are gas prices still high?

Look now I'm off the subject now.

You are making the assumption that the Bush administration wanted control over Iraqi oil in order to have cheap gas for the end user.

I don't believe that the control over Iraqi oil was the only reason Iraq was invaded but it was the predominent one.

Many times people have argued that if the US wanted Iraqi oil all they had to do was leave Saddam in power and keep buying it. But what they don't recognise is the difference in the US buying Iraqi oil versus the US buying oil from anywhere else in the world. Specifically the currency used in Iraqi oil purchases.

Every country in the world used the USD as the method of exchange for oil, except Iraq. Iraq used the Euro. On Oct 30, 2000 the UN approved the Iraqi request to transfer the "Food for Oil" monies held in escrow from USDs to Euros.

So now the US can't print off more USDs to buy that oil, but must use it's reserves of Euros to do so. In order to get more Euros the US must sell of more USDs, adding more to the money markets and futher driving down the value of the USDs while at the same time increasing the value of the Euro. This also sets a bad president. If the Euro becomes that much more valuable than the USD, it makes sense for other countries to make the switch as well. Heck Russia has threated to do so in the resent past when they got pissed at Bush.

Combined with the massive trade deficit the US has it becomes a serious threat to (if not the entire US economy) the US's position of unquestion ecomonic surpremecy in the world.

One of the first thing the US government did after taking control of Iraq was to change those "Food for oil" escrow monies back to USDs and make Iraq start selling oil in USDs again.

ASTAC · « **Reply #257 on:** May 21, 2005, 06:10:05 PM »

You make a good point...but I don't think it was the predominate reason...just my opinion trhough

Urchin · « **Reply #258 on:** May 21, 2005, 06:24:40 PM »

Someone hit Nuke on the back... he got stuck again.

My CD player does that... I usually just smack it pretty smartly and it starts working again.

Gixer · « **Reply #259 on:** May 21, 2005, 06:37:45 PM »

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Originally posted by Urchin
Someone hit Nuke on the back... he got stuck again.

My CD player does that... I usually just smack it pretty smartly and it starts working again.

Never had a thread I've started provide so much entertainment.

~~...-Gixer~~

Hangtime · « **Reply #260 on:** May 21, 2005, 09:41:43 PM »

psssst.. hey Nukeling... I think our last two wars in Iraq were about oil.

When Saddam invaded Iran, we helped him.. in fact we financed his arms buildup and patted him on the head and pointed the way east. When Saddam gassed the Kurds, we did nothin'... hell; we'd sent him the chemicals and a cookbook. Saddam had already snuffed 2 million people by then.. we hadn't even bothered to send a tomahawk his way yet.

Yet when Saddam snatched the Kuwati Oil we moved mighty damn quick.. and when Saddam ordered a payback hit on George Herbert the Bush family made a special little note in the family payback book.

When George Walker got the top job he had motive and opportunity (9/11) to work on the family ledger and the energy lobby campaigin deficit.. and did the predictable thing.

And yah get an 'F' fer not doin the homework.

neeener, neeener, neeener.

Now, I happen to think that kickin saddams murderin bellybutton outta office and hammering the republican guards flat a second time was a good thing. Saddam needed an ass-whippin. Now I think it's way past time for our kids to come home and I want our boys 'n girls back to doin what they is supposed ta be doin in Afganistan and Pakistan.. finding the big 6'6" rat bastid leading a camel totin a dialisis machine that dropped the towers.

Now, once yah get done spewing yer christian right wing republican knee jerk indignant babble answer me this lil missive...

Why the mideast instead of africa?

Plenty of tinhorn pissant dirty dog dick lickin dictators and warlords runnin around murderin millions of innocents THERE.. but Nukiepookie, here's the dirty dawg dick deal; africans ain't got nothin rich american politicians or chinese funded american corporations want. There's no piece of pie, no fat commerical intrests and no cash cow royal families to grease our political and corporate backsides... so No US troops will be saving any huti's outside of hollywood anytime soon.

Welcome to the ugly truth to american foriegn policy.. and it's pretty much the same now as it was 50 years ago. Ask the Taiwanese. They'll tell yah. America is a 'fair weather friend'.

Now, I'm proud to be an American, love the Red White and Blue. I think this nation of ours has a lot goin for it and has a lot to offer for both it's citizens and for the citizens of a free democratic world. But reality and political pretensions and posturing will forever mar the ideal of the American Promise.. seen by the rest of the world (with good reason) to be one hand offered in friendship with the other holding covering a big gnarly club..

To the citizens of the world I lament.. the leaders of this nation were not mandated to do the things they've done by the american people, et al. The majority of the citizens of this nation deplore the hash Commisar Booosh has made of the middle east.

We apologise for the inconvienience, we'll endeavor next election to install a diffrent (not necessarily better) pinhead to screw up the planet. We sincerely apologize in advance for the upcoming indignant retoric of Nukiepukie the Brainwashed Crusader. In the meantime, send yer notes regarding your displeasure regarding recent events to 1600 Pensylvania Ave, Washington DC, USA.

Thanks. And Sleep Tight. Our Navy is watching our Airforce watch our Army support our Marines.

*sigh*

SirLoin · « **Reply #261 on:** May 21, 2005, 09:51:15 PM »

So true..nice piece of writing.

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #262 on:** May 21, 2005, 09:55:41 PM »

Sorry, off topic but,

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What's the point of posting?

Nash · « **Reply #263 on:** May 21, 2005, 10:00:39 PM »

It's a joke. He thinks it's funny.

But it's basically just another troll, and fitting that it's in his sig line.

NUKE · « **Reply #264 on:** May 21, 2005, 10:27:57 PM »

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Originally posted by Nash
It's a joke. He thinks it's funny.

But it's basically just another troll, and fitting that it's in his sig line.

actually I didn't think it was very funny at all.

Hangtime · « **Reply #265 on:** May 21, 2005, 10:29:10 PM »

*thunk, thunk, thunk*

"McFly, anybody home?"

NUKE · « **Reply #266 on:** May 21, 2005, 10:31:33 PM »

I'm still waiting for Momus to explain how he thinks the number one strategic priority of the US for the past 60 years has been to control persian gulf resources.

Anyone who believes is not of this universe. Nash, still waiting for you to say why you believe the Iraq war was about oil.

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #267 on:** May 21, 2005, 10:33:58 PM »

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Originally posted by Nash
It's a joke. He thinks it's funny.

But it's basically just another troll, and fitting that it's in his sig line.

I don't think he was joking. If he were joking he'd say, "A horse walks into a bar, the bartender says...."

Hangtime · « **Reply #268 on:** May 21, 2005, 10:34:35 PM »

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I'm still waiting for Momus to explain how he thinks the number one strategic priority of the US for the past 60 years has been to control persian gulf resources.

Anyone who believes is not of this universe. Nash, still waiting for you to say why you believe the Iraq war was about oil.

Oh. well, we're in confrence on the mother ship.

the consensus is "resistance is futile".

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #269 on:** May 21, 2005, 11:04:52 PM »

From a couple of pages ago,

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Originally posted by Torque
20/20 hindsight brought on after a crude character assassination attempt by the pentagon, and information that the demise of unscom was the cia's doing.

Hey Torque, I hope you don't take all what Ritter says to the bank.

In a Frontline interview , Richard Butler, Ritter's boss in UNSCOM said,

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"I mean this, in all friendliness towards Scott--he really ought to sort out his thinking. In all objectivity, if you were to lay those materials out on the table and do a textural analysis and say, what is this guy saying? What caused what? The CIA? The U.S.A? Richard Butler? The wicked Security Council? You will find four or five different chains of reasoning, all of which are contradictory. He doesn't even know which one to choose, at any given time."