WBIII Beta is out!

[Fjoder]

Its funny, you know.

half of the posts in here is about how WBIII
stink, yet almost none have actually tried it.(atleast not on the min-system-req system)

and for you Ripl.
You post your AH posts on AGW and demands
the AGW crowd should be tolerant with what you post, yet when someone from Warbirds post
anything here, you start a rant.


To the AH community
Play your AH game, enjoy it, and we will play ours (WBIII) no need for idiot comments.
If you have constructive critisism you are most welcome to post it on the AGW board.
if not, be quiet.

Peter

[Apache]

Aside from all this bickering which isn't doing anyone any good at all, WBIII looks really good. I haven't gotten to fly it yet as I am at work, but she sure is a memory hog. I'm know there are bugs to work out so I'm looking forward to trying it out at home.
Congrats on Warbirds III  

[Moose11]

Time for this to go to the off-topic forum before the thugs come in and start a real war.

Face it folks - no one will ever know if one FM is more realistic then another. Never. A couple reasons why could be that most of these aircraft have never been flown by anyone involved in the devolpment of the game (and probably not by the customers, either) and also that even with the correct 'data', no *computer game* will ever simulate the feeling of flight perfectly.

I like AH. I was one of those who ditched iEN for my own reasons when the beta came out for Aces High. There are some who did the same, some who stayed behind, and some who just showed up on the scene.

Are we all that different? (mostly) bunch of adults whose actions remind me of the jr. high school mentality.

Give it up - WBIII is WBIII. AH is AH. Most all of you have made up your minds already, and no amount of arguing on this board will change them.

[Ripsnort]

   

Originally posted by Macchi:
You won't do it, because you won't find any posts in AGW where i slammed AH      

Lem
P.S.: did you ever looked into a mirror Rip?

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Well, here's one sample:  

Warps and Flic rolls, please read this thread from THC, err i mean HTC

Of course, the other samples are all threads that can be found in a seach, but cannot be read (gee, wonder why that is Lem?)

And yes, I have looked in the mirror.  I use constructive criticism.  I don't *have* to resort to your sarcastic tactics, because I am more mature than you, sir. Have a nice day!

Fjoder: again, show me where I have been sarcastic in my analysis of Warbirds.

I believe constructive criticism is best for both communities!  When it turns into a 'whos got the best'.well, you get threads like this!  Expect this one to be locked, unfortunately, since the sarcasm stones have been cast by both communities.

Fjoder, please continue to post about WBIII in our Off-topic forum, I for one am interested in following the development of any online sime (as I *thought* you might be when I posted about AH in the Off-topic of your board)




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[Moose11]

 

Originally posted by Lugnut:
You guys crack me up. You slag WB for having an imperfect beta, cheerlead AH, but if you read the HTC board, you can still see plenty of squeaking about what you have here. Go figure.

Reminds me of the old joke Woody Allen used to tell in his stand up days. Two old Jewish ladies eating lunch in a restaurant. One says,"This food is lousy", and the other one says "yeah, and such small portions too".

Its all good guys. Don't take it personally that their trying to improve the product. HS has let out enough rope, lets see if makes a lasso to corral some new customers, or hangs himself with it    

Lugnut

Just to point out Lugnut that you WB guys have been squeaking about one thing or another on your board just like we have. It's either the connects, or the lopsided allies/axis, lack of WBIII updates (finally alleviated) etc..

Just another case of the pot calling the kettle black. (or whatever saying that is)

edit - spellchecked... and as I did that, it's been moved to OT. Thanks Pyro.

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[Macchi]

Rofl Rip,
thats all you can bring up here.
You don't need sarcastics? You are 1 of the best examples of "talking this, but doin that" guys.
I let your imagination that you a more mature than me stay, because otherwise it would kill you that a stinking european anarchist is above your bigotte morale standpoints
 
 

Never i have seen 1 guy putting the "What is slamming" standard so low like you.

Lem

[Lugnut]

Agreed, we've all slagged each other at some point, as well as our "own" sims. No one lives in a glass house anymore, we all just stand piles of broken glass holding rocks, point at the neighbors and say "Look at what you did to my house". Call me an unintended hypocrite, I can handle it  

FWIW, I don't fly WBs anymore, nor AH, nor anyflight sim for that matter. I completed my 12 step program and cured my addiction (with a little help from iEN). Only sim I play anymore is GPL, which never seems to get old to me. I *may* try WB3 once it makes it past its premature birth into beta status, but for now I don't feel like pumping another $1,000 into my PC just to play more games. Se le guerre'.

Lug

[Westy]

 Lem you've done it. No need to try and put a different spin on it nor gloss over the fact. Maybe it's a language thing. Whatever. Just don't try to roadkill people.

 -Westy

[MrSiD]

I just played WBIII offline at 1280x1024x32Bit T&L..

The sky looks better than 2.xx, terrain even that it now has hills looks much worse IMHO.

The planes feel like theyre hanging in air, they are sluggish and there's no sense of compressibility as speed increases.. Compared to Aces High its amazingly easy to raise the nose of any plane at any given speed (minimum stall speed excluded.)

Of course this is because the FM hasn't been touched since 2.xx all the old quirks are still there. One thing I did like and that is the massive torque effect on f4u when taking off.. Feels more like the plane they called the 'ensign eliminator.'

The aircraft showed a bit more detail, however due to the fact that most effects are still missing the game looked barren. Shooting tennis-balls to planes without seeing much as a result unless exploding the plane on a pilot kill..

The release of WBIII is long overdue and they still have a LOT of work to be done..

All I can say is good luck to you IEN folks, I hope you will be finished soon in the future. In the meanwhile I'll play AH and will check WW2OL if there's anything to check anyway =)

[Ripsnort]

Just curious, is this a mid-air explosion?
If so, it needs some work...I know, I know, its beta!

   

and...a side by side terrain comparison:
 

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[Dinger]

No offense skybax, but I read that article, and HS pretty much says, "Same game, new grafix".  Sure, he promises lots of changes, but they're all slated for the future.
I'm happy that you guys have WBIII, and I'll admit, it is very pretty.  I sincerely hope you guys get all the changes iEN has promised you. Er sorry, that's probably disingenous: HS spends half his time explaining why WBIII isn't what he promised, and the other half promising stuff that will be added in later.
Let me rephrase:
I honestly hope you folks get the best game possible.  And if in the future it turns out that WB3 is the best game on the market, I won't feel threatened.  Hell, I'll probably sign up.

[Westy]

 I do have to say that many of the aircraft look REAL nice from an external POV. Makes good PR screen shots.  

 But they absolutely stink when sitting in them and looking out. And I "fly" my planes in the first person pov. The P-38 has the midsection of each boom invisible, the Spitfire has elevators for wings, the F6F wings look like crap, the 109 same,  the P-51B cokcpit is a P-51D with a hideous "B" canopy overlay. The list goes on.

 Not much appears to have changed when looking at screen shots from even November of last year.

 And the fired rounds/tracers look like flaming tennis balls. Not bad. Just different.

 HS is walking around with a big stick alright. And it's passing from one ear through to the other.

 -Westy

 
 

[Greese]

Well, I have it, and I played it for a while.
 You can't deny the terrain looks great.  Clouds, sky, ground, everyhting looks like it is better than AH, I didn't like the funky water, though.
HOWEVER.  I understand it is just a beta, and with that understanding, I'm comparing a beta to a full release.  AH, in my opinion, is just more entertaining.  It is more "real" to me, who has never piloted a real plane.  I know they have work to do, and will fix it up, but for now, I still prefer AH.  Competition is good, as many havee said, and I can't wait for HTC to answer to those clouds, especially...  

[Ripsnort]

 

Originally posted by Greese:
You can't deny the terrain looks great.  Clouds, sky, ground, everyhting looks like it is better than AH, I didn't like the funky water, though.

Did you see my screen shot comparison up above?  Is that what the terrain looks like or is Brendo's screen capture doing it no justice?

[R4M]

the think I'll never get, guys, is the NEED you have to slam each other because you prefer one or another simulation...this goes to both WB and AH sides regarding each other, and regarding WWIIOL, Il2 or whatever else.

If you dont feel threatened, then why do you say a single thing?. I've downloaded the game, have tested it, and I wont say a single thing about good or bad things -apart of the already known roll inertia problem in the 190-. I'm staying here because I like AH more than Wb, but I dont feel the overriding desire to slam the "other" simulation that some people here feel so hard.

If you like AH, stay there and get fun. If you like WBs,  stay there and get fun.

But what is the purpose on jumpin' on each other's throat trying to yell the loudest "YOUR SIM SUCKS"?.

It reminds me of my parvular years,when I was four years old... with those "my daddy is richer than yours" or "my toy is purtier than yours" discussions...and when the language teacher came to stop a kid calling the other kid names, both little kids say "he does the same with me in the Maths class, teacher!"

 yep, I think that we have a VERY similar case here....

 

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