Surprise, Surprise, looks like Clinton/Gore Admin. kept a few things from us:

[Ripsnort]

 http://foxnews.com/election_night/112900/russiaarms_kehnemui.sml

[Toad]

Running out to get some beer and brats!

Can't wait to see the spin on this one.

Save me a lawnchair by the barbie!

[easymo]

 Swell!    

[RAM]

 

Originally posted by Toad:
Running out to get some beer and brats!!

Wanna popcorn toad?...gimme a couple of beers and you can take all you want (shows a 5ft-diameter bowl full of hot popcorn)...

[Maverick]

That sure shows that the current misadministration was a true wonder in international dealings doesn't it.

 

Mav

[Nash]

Want my spin?

Uhm...

Big..... Deal.  

[Ripsnort]

 

Originally posted by Nash:
Want my spin?

Uhm...

Big..... Deal.  

Can you say Iran/Contra?  

[Nash]

Not quite Rip, yet it still makes my point, so thank you.

Some republican dude in congress is outraged because we didn't punish another country for selling arms to Iran, when his man Reagan sold his *own* country's arms to Iran.

[Ripsnort]

 

Originally posted by Nash:
Not quite Rip, yet it still makes my point, so thank you.

Some republican dude in congress is outraged because we didn't punish another country for selling arms to Iran, when his man Reagan sold his *own* country's arms to Iran.

You forgot to add: "In order to get his OWN countrymen released from Iran..."  

[Kieren]

Oddly, this is something I don't have too much trouble with in concept, as it is done in National Security interests. That it was inexpertly conducted, well, that is another matter.

It does prove my previous point; someone that lies obvious lies right to your face will certainly go behind your back to do what he wants.

[Nash]

Lol Rip, can you possibly dig yerself into a deeper hole on this?

Iran-Contra was Reagan selling arms to Iran to raise money for his private war down in the southern hemisphere.

Your getting it confused with what's come to be known as "arms for hostages", yet *another* deal by Reagan to provide arms to Iran, this time 7 years earlier. The result being the release of all the hostages on (suprise!) Reagan's innaugeration day.

[funked]

And gee I wonder who Reagan's right hand man was on all of this?  Maybe a former spook and TBF pilot?  

Don't forget the BILLIONS of dollars that the Reagan/Bush regime spent to help build Saddam's war machine.  

Then they took all the credit for destroying what they built in the Gulf War.  The irony was comical but it's hard to laugh with 100,000 plus dead.  

[Nash]

Oh indeed Funked.

Bill Casey and George Bush met with the Iranian Prime Minister in Paris in October 1980, only weeks before the election and with Carter having a slight lead over Reagan. Part of the deal cut between the Reagan team and Iran was to provide military weapons which Iran desperately needed in its war with Iraq.

As it turned out (or because of that?), the 52 American hostages remained captive in Teheran. Carter's popularity continued to plummet, enabling Reagan to be elected in November. The hostages were returned at 12 o'clock noon on January 21, 1981 when Reagan was inaugurated.

[Toad]

Ah! Negra Modello and Bratwurst!

Please do continue! Turn up the flames a bit..the brats are in need of more heat!

BTW, is this the proof we need to show Al's expertise in foreign affairs?

LOL!

The US should be prevented from making foreign policy decisions anywhere in the world. A man's got to know his limitations and we're just not very good at it.

We keep thinking that people are basically good and will try to do the right thing. No matter how many times we get smacked in the face with the cold salmon of reality, we keep on believing.

That's why I say "bring all the US troops home." Clearly, our politicians don't know WTF they are doing. (ANY of them...regardless of party)

 

[Nash]

Hehe

Dammit Toad I'm *trying* to give ya a show here, what with ya havin' to run out and get the brats and all... but I aint gettin' nuthin. People! - I can't work like this!  

Er... and I wasn't aware this thread was about "proving Gore's expertise in foreign affairs". I suppose though, if you were in his position, ya woulda called an emergency security briefing to the entire congress, perhaps even engaged in a televised address from the Oval office, and proposed that we either test Putin's mettle by declaring an all encompassing embargo/blockade on Russia, repleat with a no fly zone, the whole nine yards... or started lobbing ord on both the Russians and Iran, solving both those pesky problems in one tidy package  

Actually, it *is* a good question.

But first... ferget the crap about Gore - last time I checked Bill was still the commander in chief. You think Bill relenquished his job to Gore WRT foreign policy or something? You and I both know why Gore was the focus of this. Ah well, this is the folly of gettin' yer information from Fox News (Fox News!!). These people are the same bunch of geniuses that bring you such things as "When senile pets attack their owners!"....or.... "When magic tricks go very, very wrong". Puhlease. But anyways...

Back to the question. Russia (who's economy is in tatters, who's top dog is text-book KGB era... a complete X-factor) is selling arms to Iran.

You condemn "Gore"? Ball is in yer court then. How would *you* approach this?