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Offline JB88

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« on: June 04, 2005, 12:14:53 AM »
and i will be damned if i think that what we are doing and the direction that we are heading is either healthy, decent or for that matter christian.

there are so many changes happening that we cant even keep up with them.

national id's passed.

patriot act.

bankrupcy protection- gone.  (this by a puppet who drove his own business to the ground and got bailed out by daddy's rich saudi friends)

attacks on the judicial branch and legislation against it which will castrate it and its ability to uphold our freedoms, protect us from tyranny and defend our constitution.

justifying torture.

ignoring the rights of sovereign nations.

funny.  im starting to feel like we want to be THEM.

it makes my skin crawl.

truly.
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« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2005, 12:17:03 AM »
Exactly how has your life changed due to all this oppression?

What is it you can no longer do that you could do before?
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« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2005, 12:17:13 AM »
we have met the enemy, and he am us.
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« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2005, 12:18:51 AM »
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Exactly how has your life changed due to all this oppression?

What is it you can no longer do that you could do before?


speak proudly of my nation's path toad.

what could possibly be worse than that?
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Offline Lizking

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« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2005, 12:19:22 AM »
I refuse to allow such ignorance to be lumped in with "us".
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« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2005, 12:21:48 AM »
Like everything else there are proud things in our nation's path and some less than proud things.

That you view it as all negative speaks more of you than the nation.
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« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2005, 12:24:44 AM »
minor in armchair psychology too?

neato.

leave it to the "educated" to swing it back to tacks right?

no.  sorry.  but in this case i dont think that you will find me all that shamed by my impressions.

as i say, i love my country and i think that it is turning into a holy hell of a mess.

and that makes me sad.

so yes.  i guess that does speak of me.

as do yours words reflect you.

(and my interpretation and your interpretation...etc)
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« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2005, 12:26:48 AM »
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bankrupcy protection- gone. (this by a puppet who drove his own business to the ground and got bailed out by daddy's rich saudi friends)


I know a guy that filed bankrupcy last week.  The airlines do it all the time?

Exactly what are not protected against?
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« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2005, 12:29:02 AM »
its going into effect in a few months.

just passed recently.

the trend of government is pro-corporation.  it will be much harder to file for bankrupcy now.

cant wait for debtors prisons.  

great excercize i hear.
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« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2005, 12:33:12 AM »
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minor in armchair psychology too?
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Nope. Just a student of the obvious.

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no.  sorry.  but in this case i dont think that you will find me all that shamed by my impressions.


Didn't imply you were or even should be.

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as i say, i love my country and i think that it is turning into a holy hell of a mess.


Certainly an opinion you are entitled to voice.

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so yes.  i guess that does speak of me.


Excellent! We agree.

Now, other than voicing a personally held opinion of your nation's path, what ACTUAL changes in your life have these new laws wrought? What do you actually have to DO that is different now? How are you inhibited from doing something you did before?
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« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2005, 12:35:05 AM »
i have already answered that toad.

you either need to be a better student of the obvious or switch minors.
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« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2005, 12:37:23 AM »
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Exactly how has your life changed due to all this oppression?

What is it you can no longer do that you could do before?


I fear your embarkation on this new spiritual path. It makes you that much more of a formidable opponent. :)

Happy for you, truly.
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« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2005, 12:43:06 AM »
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i have already answered that toad.
 


No, you really haven't.

Well, unless you are saying that the ONLY thing that has changed in your life due to this TERRIBLE OPPRESSION is that you no longer view your country's path in the same way. IE: Your opinion of your country has changed.

That's IT? Guess we are indeed doomed. Of course, not everyone shares that opinion, so maybe we'll be OK afterall.

Good to know the rest of your daily life hasn't changed a lick. Suggests the oppression is lighter than a feather.

Nash... it isn't really "new".
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« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2005, 12:45:38 AM »
um. exactly when did i use the word oppression?

show me please.

or is that just what you'd call it?
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« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2005, 12:46:14 AM »
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Nash... it isn't really "new".


And it never was, and will never be. But I recall your curiousity. And I recall your questions of Seagoon as to direction. I am glad that your exploration seems to be leading you just fine.
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