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Offline wrag

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« on: June 06, 2005, 02:26:43 PM »
Do you have children?


http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/archive/m-n/manion/2005/manion060605.htm

Sad what the child welfare and support systems have become :(
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« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2005, 02:52:41 PM »
Not to make light of his situation but it is all too common. There is a very large bias in the court system regarding fathers and their parental "rights". In short they don't get anything near parity with the mother.
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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2005, 03:04:10 PM »
Yes and the media seems to support it.
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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2005, 03:06:58 PM »
In elementary school a kid I knew loved his dad.  ABSOLUTELY loved him and would have rather been in his care but the judicial system doesn't seem to care what the child wants and gave the custody to his mom.  Sure there could have been other things involved but as far as I saw the kids dad seemed to be at everything his son did.  

I think this story stems from a bad divorce anyway.  My parents divorce was smooth (if you can call a divorce smooth).  They still talk and I go to my dad's house every other weekend and on Wednesdays.

Another story is of my mom's friend.  He was involved in a bad divorce.  He would pay child support but it was diverted like in the story.  When he sent his kids birthday cards they didn't receive them, phone calls never got to the kids, etc etc.  Eventually after digging around he found that his wife was using the money for her own uses.

Just cause you're a guy doesn't mean you can't parent.  That's why there is a mother AND a father.
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« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2005, 04:44:31 PM »
such a hard luck story, hard to believe it's not fiction.
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« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2005, 05:01:46 PM »
Ya know... If he doesn't like this country, he's free to leave.
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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2005, 06:33:12 PM »
I don't think he doesn't like this country.

I have no idea if this is fiction or not BUT I have known males that were VERY poorly treated by the courts in a neighboring state and in a similar manner.

Makes me happy to live in Nevada as the courts here seem more interested in justice as well as fairness.
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« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2005, 06:52:21 PM »
Sounds like a bunch of whining to me.  When folks screw up their personal lives and then turn the solutions over to the courts they deserve what they get.

I am sure his ex-wife and the courts have a completely different version of the events.

This is most likely the only time I will agree with Sandman...

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Ya know... If he doesn't like this country, he's free to leave.


Besides even if the article is 'true' it sounds like nothing more then a dude pissed at the courts over the amount of support he was forced to pay.
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« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2005, 07:13:46 PM »
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Sounds like a bunch of whining to me.  When folks screw up their personal lives and then turn the solutions over to the courts they deserve what they get.

I am sure his ex-wife and the courts have a completely different version of the events.

This is most likely the only time I will agree with Sandman...



Besides even if the article is 'true' it sounds like nothing more then a dude pissed at the courts over the amount of support he was forced to pay.


Hmmm did you read the part about his ex's boyfriend/new husband and his bus stop thing?
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« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2005, 07:16:39 PM »
The guy's a whiney little beoch. He should join the JBs.
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« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2005, 08:16:02 PM »
I think most guys have kids because they're afraid their wives will leave them if they don't. And most women want children just because they WANT to have children, purely emotional, and really it's selfish when you think about it. I mean, if they wanted kids for the right reasons, they would adopt them.
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« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2005, 08:57:44 PM »
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Hmmm did you read the part about his ex's boyfriend/new husband and his bus stop thing?


Yup and I don't care (or necessarily believe it). The tone of his article is more about him now being 'free from paying the 6 figure support payment'.

If you have read it you can see that his whole angry male whine can be summed up right here:

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There is no crime in this Country that penalizes an innocent person to pay six figures for something they would be judged as innocent.  There is no crime that targets a percentage of future income to be paid under threat of arrest.


He views his obligation to pay for the children he sired as a 'crime' and 'punishment' and thinks he is 'innocent' and should not have to pay or have paid.

None of that has piss to do with his ex's boyfriend. Even if it is true what kind of man would let his kids stay with a pedophile regardless of what the court says? His article isn't entitled:

"My kids are free at last from a pedophile.'

It's:

Free At Last, Free At Last: Release From Child Support Debtors Prison
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« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2005, 09:17:17 PM »
Yep, Wotan, in the same situation, I would remove my kids from the situation, and let another court decide the merits of the case, and the kids would be in either my custody or one of the grandparents.
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« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2005, 10:33:05 PM »
Sounds like you guys have never been through divorce court
and had to deal with visitation schedules...lol...visitation schedules.. visitation fairy tales more like it...
pray you don't go through it, cuz if you think that was whining, you will be amazed how much people don't give a crap about the kids rights to see both parents, and your feelings, ... on an equal basis, cuz if one parent is an arse, then it will never be easy...
Funny how you got whining out of that, and I read, here was a father who had every right to be concerned about a child of his being around a suspected pedophile and was amazed and disgusted with a court system that ignored the facts and pushed it through.....but no.. you ijots saw whining...The fact that he had his last support payment coming up was not the point... any of you ijots walk in those shoes? Nope..but h** you're all experts lol

NwBie
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« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2005, 10:40:14 PM »
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Sounds like you guys have never been through divorce court
and had to deal with visitation schedules...lol...visitation schedules..

NwBie


I went thru it as a child and the worst part was having to go to court to state which parent I wanted to be with. Knowing very well as a child how  much one of my parents were going to be crushed and my fear of losing the other one's love.
Hardest thing I've just about ever been thru.
But that experience has made me realize my child is most important and no matter what I will do my best to make my marriage work for the sake of my child.
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