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Offline JB88

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« Reply #120 on: June 21, 2005, 08:10:09 PM »
for a detention center at gitmo you mean?
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« Reply #121 on: June 21, 2005, 08:25:21 PM »
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for a detention center at gitmo you mean?


ok so BEFORE he was in office and BEFORE 9/11 and BEFORE Cheney while CEO, MAYBE (I say maybe because CEOs of HUGE coorporations dont allways persue contracts of their subsidiaries) got an open contract to expand Gitmo.

Skip forward a year or two and the need arises PDQ for a secure facility to interogate and house POWs/Combatents and they use this open contract to fill this urgent need.

Ok were's the problem here.  I've said it before and I'll say it again and 88 I hope you actually listen this time.

THE US MILITARY USES KBR FOR ALOT OF CONSTRUCTION AND I DO MEAN ALOT!

This guy also quotes secret black prisons that groups want made public (HELLO IF MADE PUBLIC THEY ARNT SECRET BASES NOW ARE THEY)

In addition he goes WAAAAAYYYYYYY back to 1967 in wich B&R (were they even a subsidiary of haliburton back then?) was fined for fraudulent practices.


Seriously 88 I do not see at ALL the link other than the fact that cheny used to work for them.  They did the job BEFORE he was VP they did the job BEFORE he was CEO.  They do the job now......what's the difference?

the only thing I can even imagine that you are trying to say from THAT article is that Cheny oversaw ALL the contracts his company's subsidiaries persued.  In that he knew they could all make a fortune by upgrading Gitmo because that's were all the terrorists would need to be held because they KNEW 9/11 was gonna happen before he took office?

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« Reply #122 on: June 21, 2005, 09:00:09 PM »
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for a detention center at gitmo you mean?
There has to be a point here somewhere. I'm just missing it.

Are you actually trying to draw some correlation here? Try quoting worthless articles less and making valid points more.

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« Reply #123 on: June 21, 2005, 09:39:54 PM »
I feel confident I know more about prisons and their construction than anyone who has yet spoken- I spent most of a decade living in motels in little watermelon towns around the US and Puerto Rico (NO big city, or even a small city, wants a prison nearby) firing up the electronic stuff located therein. If you look at the bid specs for any jail or prison in this country about to go up, there are  NEVER more than 12 or 13 companies listed as being ALLOWED to bid,(that is from a NATIONAL pool)  and its likely most of THOSE arent in a position to start a 2 year job at any given point, maybe limiting the nationwide choice to perhaps a half dozen.-- Thats, a HALF dozen construction outfits in the WHOLE country that can build prisons--it's VERY specialized work, and just because you can build a school or an office building DOESNT mean you can build a prison. A prison which can hold 1,200 inmates--having the required built-in school, medical section, kitchens, (one I worked on in Florence, AZ has THREE kitchens) etc. would be some $75 million in Florida--and THATS in the continental US--imagine the incurred cost of ALL the concrete and heavy equipment being shipped across the Caribbean, and the hundred or so guys building the thing being paid hardship money to live in a chithole like Gitmo. As with many jobs that Halliburton gets, damn few other companies could accomplish the job.
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« Reply #124 on: June 21, 2005, 09:44:06 PM »
Btw, one of the last jobs my old company was doing when I quit last year was building a beastly high-tech replacement for Sheriff Joe's 'tent city':lol
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« Reply #125 on: June 21, 2005, 10:52:03 PM »
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Btw, one of the last jobs my old company was doing when I quit last year was building a beastly high-tech replacement for Sheriff Joe's 'tent city':lol


high tech tents????  do tell more  ;)

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« Reply #126 on: June 22, 2005, 12:37:33 AM »
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Btw, one of the last jobs my old company was doing when I quit last year was building a beastly high-tech replacement for Sheriff Joe's 'tent city':lol


arpio.  i am familiar with his antics.
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« Reply #127 on: June 22, 2005, 12:45:16 AM »
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arpio.  i am familiar with his antics.


yes but what do you have to say about his post?

Do you still think back in 1995 Cheny and haliburton dreamt this whole plot up.  They and they alone with the help of their subsidiary company KBR, one of a handfull of companys able to build a US prison on foreign soil, predicted in 2000 what would happen on 9/11 so they (the Cheny goon squad) set up a contract to build a prison that will coincidentally be needed 2 years later to hold prisoners from a war that hasn't happend yet that Cheny will have started while in office?

Cmon man how far do you want to strech this.

Cheny as VP does not issue out contracts for the Dept of Deffense NORE does he have oversight.

Cheny was CEO of HALIBURTON not KBR.  KBR is the one that peformed alot of the work and haliburton obviously owns KBR.

There's a disticnt possibility that Cheny had very little to do with ANYTHING that KBR bid on and that he just collected the rewards and kept the sharholders happy.

this line you are drawing thakes way to many off angle turns even through time itself to even show any type of relevent proof of any type of conspiracy.

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« Reply #128 on: June 22, 2005, 01:02:02 AM »
im not arguing anything.  

i am asking questions.

simple as that.

now.  does this latest revelation make me even more skeptical?

yes.

why?

well, for starters it makes me wonder if maybe i could be getting a better bang for my tax dollar.  lets see.  x starts a war.  x who happens to be deeply wrapped in the contractural field related to the war field and/or the oil field just happens to be the choice for vice president under "A" who just happens to have a grudge against daddy.  meanwhile "A" is setting up all of the things that were preplanned in advance to make sure that the buddies of x are getting a fair share of my money.

so.  it makes me wonder.

how many schools could we build?

how many bills could be passed to simplify the tax code rather than keeping it out of the reach of the average man.

how many friggin soldiers have to die in iraq or people suffer until this great thirst is quenched?

i mean really.

CONTRACTS FOR A PRISON NEEDED FOR A WAR THAT NOONE KNEW WAS GOING TO BE WAGED?



so.  where the hell is osama?




no.  i dont trust it.

and im friggin tired of payin for it.



over and out.

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« Reply #129 on: June 22, 2005, 07:02:14 AM »
This troll has gone on long enough.  If all you want is answers, then write your favorite politician as all anyone can do here is speculate.
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