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« on: June 23, 2005, 11:02:01 AM »
Hi All,

Today the liberal wing of the Supreme court (Stevens, Kennedy, Souter, Ginsburg, Breyer) determined that cities can indeed seize private property under existing "eminent domain" laws in order to encourage "urban renewal." This decision was vigorously protested by conservatives and moderates on the court. At issue was whether cities have the right to seize desirable private property not for public works (highways, sewer works, etc.) but in order to hand them over to private developers to increase the local economy and tax base.

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Supreme Court Rules Cities May Seize Homes


By HOPE YEN
The Associated Press
Thursday, June 23, 2005; 11:43 AM

WASHINGTON -- A divided Supreme Court ruled Thursday that local governments may seize people's homes and businesses against their will for private development in a decision anxiously awaited in communities where economic growth often is at war with individual property rights.

The 5-4 ruling _ assailed by dissenting Justice Sanday Day O'Connor as handing "disproportionate influence and power" to the well-heeled in America _ was a defeat for some Connecticut residents whose homes are slated for destruction to make room for an office complex. They had argued that cities have no right to take their land except for projects with a clear public use, such as roads or schools, or to revitalize blighted areas.

As a result, cities now have wide power to bulldoze residences for projects such as shopping malls and hotel complexes in order to generate tax revenue.

Writing for the court, Justice John Paul Stevens said local officials, not federal judges, know best in deciding whether a development project will benefit the community. States are within their rights to pass additional laws restricting condemnations if residents are overly burdened, he said.

"The city has carefully formulated an economic development that it believes will provide appreciable benefits to the community, including _ but by no means limited to _ new jobs and increased tax revenue," Stevens wrote in an opinion joined by Justice Anthony Kennedy, David H. Souter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen G. Breyer.

"It is not for the courts to oversee the choice of the boundary line nor to sit in review on the size of a particular project area," he said.

O'Connor, who has often been a key swing vote at the court, issued a stinging dissent, arguing that cities should not have unlimited authority to uproot families, even if they are provided compensation, simply to accommodate wealthy developers.

"Any property may now be taken for the benefit of another private party, but the fallout from this decision will not be random," she wrote. "The beneficiaries are likely to be those citizens with disproportionate influence and power in the political process, including large corporations and development firms."

Connecticut residents involved in the lawsuit expressed dismay and pledged to keep fighting.

"It's a little shocking to believe you can lose your home in this country," said resident Bill Von Winkle, who said he would refuse to leave his home, even if bulldozers showed up. "I won't be going anywhere. Not my house. This is definitely not the last word."

Scott Bullock, an attorney for the Institute for Justice representing the families, added: "A narrow majority of the court simply got the law wrong today and our Constitution and country will suffer as a result."

At issue was the scope of the Fifth Amendment, which allows governments to take private property through eminent domain if the land is for "public use."

Susette Kelo and several other homeowners in a working-class neighborhood in New London, Conn., filed suit after city officials announced plans to raze their homes for a riverfront hotel, health club and offices.

New London officials countered that the private development plans served a public purpose of boosting economic growth that outweighed the homeowners' property rights, even if the area wasn't blighted.

"We're pleased," attorney Edward O'Connell, who represents New London Development Corporation, said in response to the ruling.

The lower courts had been divided on the issue, with many allowing a taking only if it eliminates blight.

O'Connor was joined in her opinion by Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist, as well as Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas.

Nationwide, more than 10,000 properties were threatened or condemned in recent years, according to the Institute for Justice, a Washington public interest law firm representing the New London homeowners.

New London, a town of less than 26,000, once was a center of the whaling industry and later became a manufacturing hub. More recently the city has suffered the kind of economic woes afflicting urban areas across the country, with losses of residents and jobs.

The New London neighborhood that will be swept away includes Victorian-era houses and small businesses that in some instances have been owned by several generations of families. Among the New London residents in the case is a couple in their 80s who have lived in the same home for more than 50 years.

City officials envision a commercial development that would attract tourists to the Thames riverfront, complementing an adjoining Pfizer Corp. research center and a proposed Coast Guard museum.

New London was backed in its appeal by the National League of Cities, which argued that a city's eminent domain power was critical to spurring urban renewal with development projects such Baltimore's Inner Harbor and Kansas City's Kansas Speedway.

Under the ruling, residents still will be entitled to "just compensation" for their homes as provided under the Fifth Amendment. However, Kelo and the other homeowners had refused to move at any price, calling it an unjustified taking of their property.

The case was one of six resolved by justices on Thursday. Still pending at the high court are cases dealing with the constitutionality of government Ten Commandments displays and the liability of Internet file-sharing services for clients' illegal swapping of copyrighted songs and movies. The Supreme Court next meets on Monday.

The case is Kelo et al v. City of New London, 04-108.
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« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2005, 11:10:40 AM »
Scary, but why do you have to go creating a side to blame?

It isn't liberal vs conservative vs moderates. It's become the people vs the government.
-SW

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« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2005, 11:16:20 AM »
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« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2005, 11:18:27 AM »
Seems like a decision that will benefit private developers - so in that sense I view the justices positions as upside down.   Liberal judges making it easier for wealthy developers to make more money.   Sounds fishy to me.    Why would liberal justices take a side on a decision which benefits the owners of Walmart over private homeowners?

All is not lost, though - as Justice John Paul Stevens noted in the opinion, "States are within their rights to pass additional laws restricting condemnations if residents are overly burdened."

Good to see you posting again, Seagoon.   Haven't seen anything from you for a while.

btw, I'm not sure if this post is in violation of a rule.   I thought we weren't allowed to clip and paste controversial subject matter for discussion without adding our own opinion?   Otherwise its considered trolling?
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« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2005, 11:22:34 AM »
I should note that this isn't entirely a moot point for me.

One of our good friends here in Fayetteville is a farmer, whose family still owns and operates the same historic farm his family has been on for over 200 years. The road even bears their family name.

For many years, their farm lay outside the city limits of Fayetteville, and their biggest concern was the size and quality of their harvests and the price they would fetch. A few years ago, the city annexed the area contained their farm, and then proceeded to seize several fields belonging to them and other farmers against their will and hand them over to a developer who put in yet another Super Walmart. (Fayetteville now has 2 Super Walmarts, 1 Regular Walmart, A Sam's Club (also Walmart), and another Sam's Club under construction).

This greatly reduced their arrable land and the overall production of the farm, and consequently, their ability to remain solvent. They joined a coalition of other farmers and homeowners seeking to block the ability of the city to seize more of their land (something that everyone agrees is likely) but this decision will make it well nigh impossible for people living in the already annexed areas to contest these actions.

The sad thing is that eventually a BRAC will be issued that closes enough of Ft. Bragg to substantially reduce the population and deflate the local economy. When that happens the "surplus" Walmarts will close, and join the list of vacant large commercial properties here in Fayetteville. By that time however a historic family farm that could have gone on for another century will have been eminent domained to death, and the family members instead of following their fathers will have to move on to other trades.

I'm sorry, but I regard this as theft, oppression, and consequently a gross violation of the eighth commandment. Specifically, it strikes me as not substantially different from the enclosures of 17th-19th century England that  essentially removed property from powerless small tenants and handed them over to large landholders. This in turn forced the rural poor into the large cities in order to survive.

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« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2005, 11:30:39 AM »
The part that made me laugh was the conservative judge bemoaning the fact that large corporations already wield a disproportionate influence over the political process.

You think he only just noticed?

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« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2005, 11:41:22 AM »
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
Scary, but why do you have to go creating a side to blame?

It isn't liberal vs conservative vs moderates. It's become the people vs the government.
-SW


WOW! Thats twice in a year we've agreed!:aok

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« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2005, 11:43:23 AM »
One word : ouch.

One question : how is it possible ?

Another question : were is the benefice for the population ?

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« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2005, 11:45:20 AM »
Where is Lazs when you need him
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(and I still say he wasn't trying to spell possum!)

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« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2005, 11:48:17 AM »
Un-freaking-believable, I mean how much more commie can you get?

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« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2005, 11:50:57 AM »
I blame Clinton
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(and I still say he wasn't trying to spell possum!)

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« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2005, 11:52:00 AM »
Writing for the court, Justice John Paul Stevens said local officials, not federal judges, know best in deciding whether a development project will benefit the community. States are within their rights to pass additional laws restricting condemnations if residents are overly burdened, he said.

Isnt this what the conserves want? Power away from the SC and back to the states?
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« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2005, 11:53:06 AM »
Another one of your rights that the Govt has found a loophole around.

Soon they will find a way to take all your property and "redistribute" it for the good of the people.

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« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2005, 11:55:39 AM »
Hi Wulfe,

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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
Scary, but why do you have to go creating a side to blame?

It isn't liberal vs conservative vs moderates. It's become the people vs the government.
-SW


Because at heart this is a question of philosophy of government, which is inevitably ultimately a question of  political philosophy. Do the citizens serve the state, and do the perceived needs of the many outweigh the asserted rights of the few, as socialist utilitarianism posits, or does the state exist to serve and protect the rights of individual citizens?

The decision of the liberal wing isn't really surprising, their logic was essentially that the property rights of a few private individuals must subserve the greater good of the community. Tied up in this mindset are the ideas that:

A) The government (and indeed government generally) and not landowners know best what should happen to land and property.

B) That the needs of the local economy trump the wishes of individual landowners. Therefore if the state believes that the state of the urban poor can be alleviated by taking your land and handing it over to a developer who will build businesses providing jobs and taxes for social programs, then that is what needs to happen.

C) Ultimately land and indeed all private property is essentially overseen by the state. In other words, what you "own" is really what the state allows you to manage, and that it is their right to engross or redistribute that property as they see fit. You see this philosophy displayed in tax discussions in which socialists assume that it is not your money that they are taking, but rather public funds they are using for the greater good, and that it is an act of benevolence that they let you keep and manage some of it yourself.

D) All of this is ultimately tied to the question of where individual "rights" come from. Are they merely constructs granted by the state and thus revokable or even reversible, or are rights, "natural rights" given by God and thus irrevocable as the framers of the Constitution maintained? Socialists and indeed most materialists have long held that rights are granted by the state (a variant of this idea is that our rights are in fact simply liberties that we give up or cede to the state in the social contract, which are in turn parceled out to us via the decision of the majority on an as needed basis) and are thus revocable. The state has given, and the state has taken away.

So the Supreme Court decision was in keeping with elementary principles of socialist government, and the minority dissent was in fact an expression of the conservative adherence to the principle of natural rights and the belief that the state exists to protect those irrevocable rights. If you read the actual decisions you will clearly see the threads of both philosophies.

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« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2005, 11:58:43 AM »
This is way beyond liberal vs conservative. It is truly Feudal.

 I'm absolutely disgusted that this can happen.