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Offline 33Vortex

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« on: June 26, 2005, 07:53:37 PM »
Anyone familiar with these? Are they any good, any problems running them with AH or other games/applications?

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« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2005, 12:37:41 PM »
I have only seen them work with nivida cards - mine worked pretty well with my last one but I now have an ATI card so I can't get them to work
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« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2005, 03:39:16 PM »
Short answer:: Impracticale and usless for day to day use, but cool.  If their cheap as heck ($20) why not...andy more and Id spend me money on something else.

Long explination::

They are 'neet/nifty' to play around with, but in practice its hard to use them long term.  There are a few issues, the first is that using lcd shutter tech, means that you have to use a CRT....and a damn good one at that because your halving your refresh rate.  You also will develop eyestrain/heaches whose onset timeframe depends on the person and the quality of their hardware.  One of the bigest issues is that you will get a huge performance drop combined with a huge resolution drop (lets talk 50%).  Even IF you can run at 1600x1200, you are now playing at 800x600.....and you had a nice framerate min of 40 fps before...now its in the 20's.  So as you can see...its not a perfect solution.

It looks damn neat (Ive played AH with them and the depth is awsome) but its not not a practical day to day thing.

The only real way to go is 100% dedicated LCD micro display glasses, these avoid all the issues of 'flicker' and refresh rate, and somewhat lessen the strain on your hardware (your rendering 2 images at 1024x768 (1,572,864 pixels) instead of 1 image of 1600x1200 (1,920,000 pixels) with higher quality.  Only issue now is last time I checked anything with 1024x768 resolution was into the kind of money I pay for a car :eek:    

Hopefully these kind of specialy devices are being made obsolete with the new 3d LCD displays being produced now.

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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2005, 06:35:42 AM »
Cool, thanks for the info. I think I'll just save the money for something more useful then.


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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2005, 08:06:41 AM »
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Short answer:: Impracticale and usless for day to day use, but cool.  If their cheap as heck ($20) why not...andy more and Id spend me money on something else.

Long explination::

They are 'neet/nifty' to play around with, but in practice its hard to use them long term.  There are a few issues, the first is that using lcd shutter tech, means that you have to use a CRT....and a damn good one at that because your halving your refresh rate.  You also will develop eyestrain/heaches whose onset timeframe depends on the person and the quality of their hardware.  One of the bigest issues is that you will get a huge performance drop combined with a huge resolution drop (lets talk 50%).  Even IF you can run at 1600x1200, you are now playing at 800x600.....and you had a nice framerate min of 40 fps before...now its in the 20's.  So as you can see...its not a perfect solution.

It looks damn neat (Ive played AH with them and the depth is awsome) but its not not a practical day to day thing.

The only real way to go is 100% dedicated LCD micro display glasses, these avoid all the issues of 'flicker' and refresh rate, and somewhat lessen the strain on your hardware (your rendering 2 images at 1024x768 (1,572,864 pixels) instead of 1 image of 1600x1200 (1,920,000 pixels) with higher quality.  Only issue now is last time I checked anything with 1024x768 resolution was into the kind of money I pay for a car :eek:    

Hopefully these kind of specialy devices are being made obsolete with the new 3d LCD displays being produced now.




ALF  I have a NEC monitor with 120fps at 1280x1024 and enough horse power to peg the refresh rate  Would you recommend it for gameplay  considering this?  Would it automatically halve my fps to 60?

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« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2005, 06:18:17 PM »
Keep in mind youd be playing at an effective resolution of 1280x620 (interlaced for the shutters), so things would look pretty poor.  Like I said, you can find old ones for sale cheap, they are fun to play with, but just not worth much more than a few hours entertainment.

Also keep in mind the eyestrain most people get, and the image ghosting as the LCDs flicker on and off.....and most require software to work and that takes up CPU cycles and may have compatability issue (I ran some I got a compusa a few years back in AH with no problem, but the other issues made me return them).

Considering the prices Im seeing....Id say these things are WAY overpriced...you got the same tech a few years ago for half that...and all the components are cheaper now.  Im sure theres at least a few people on the BBS who have a pair....but Id bet you dont find anyone who uses them with any regularity.

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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2005, 08:33:49 PM »
no doubt the eyestrain was god awful, learned to take 4 advil before using them and still had a near migrain after.