It ain't Aces High but....

[Sunchaser]

Rgr that Rip, tough finding time for everything.

I do like the online coop in IL2, sorta like doing squad stuff in the main without all the kiddies running around loose.


So Tac,
Does that mean ya might not
buy IL2?

[ygsmilo]

How would it run on my old P3 450 Vodoo 3?

[Udie]

Originally posted by ygsmilo:
How would it run on my old P3 450 Vodoo 3?

time to upgrade  

[DRILL]

i got the thing the first day it was out !!!!
  but for some reasion i cant join play ot on line want but it just not happin  
  allways timed out or error of some kind or other ... wasted my mony i guess i post and post and get no help with ..so i gave up on it

[R4M]

Best WWII sim ever, Period.

Demo FM has absolutely nothing to do with final version. I was extremely critical of Il-2 when the Demo was out, as the FM was seriously lacking and completely unrealistic.

Now is great.


 

 

 

 

 


In-built campaigns are not that great. But there is a dynamic campaign generator wich gives really great,and completely different each time, missions to fly.

[AKSWulfe]

Pros:
Very nice graphics.
Damage model coincides with flight model and the visual representation is pretty good.
Flight model is pretty good, some planes you simply can't stall out (Yak-1B, Yak-7).
"Active" battlefields (if the mission is setup that way)- you can watch a tank battle unfold, watch artillery shell a town, watch soldiers run from vehicles when you strafe them, etc.
Weapon selection.
The small details that make you go "cool".
Current planes not flyable will be made flyable- hopefully with no extra charges.

Cons:
When playing over UBI the warping on a 56K modem is amazingly horrid- who was it that said this thing would challenge MMP games if it ever went MMP? The hell it will, the net code can barely handle 12 people from the viewpoint of someone who uses a 56K modem. It's a *LITTLE* better using direct connection, but it still won't touch MMP games. Never.

View system- completely sucks. No 6 view. yes, you will have a hard time looking behind you if you hold yourself up against your chair- but in a Cozy kit plane that has inclined seating and your strapped in like a race car driver, I can clearly see the propellor behind me (it's a pusher plane). So please, spare me the "it's more realistic". It ain't, it would be using 3D glasses but that just ain't in the cards yet.

Campaign- What the hell? Looks like they just half-assed that section. I'd expect more from a game that's single player and when the netcode is okay at best.


Overall it's a good game, the graphics and damage model make it something for other games to consider.... but the rest of it, well it certainly isn't a "well rounded" game- more stacked in the eye candy department than anything else.
-SW

[capt. apathy]

drill,
are you on a dsl modem?  i hear alot of guys with external dsl modems have trouble with online.

[GRUNHERZ]

The 30mm in IL2 is very strange.

It can take pretty much every bomber type plane down in one or two hits.

But it often takes more than that to kill a fighter.

Plus its rate of fire in IL2 is 40% lower than real life weapon.

It has 60rds (yes I counted many times) which last 10secs (yes I timed it many times) of firing in IL2, the real MK108 fired 600rpm which means 60 rounds should last only 6 seconds. If you do the math its clear to see that the IL2 MK108 rate of fire is 40% lower than the real weapon. AH has this right, IL doesnt. IL2 30mm rof should be increased, so that the 60 rounds run out in 6 seconds and not in 10 seconds.

Anyone know where I can contact Oleg about this?

[AKSWulfe]

You can try this forum, it's hosted by UBI and is pretty much the central place that Oleg will answer questions and stuff.
-SW

[Animal]

If you point that out there, they will eat you alive. Because to them, Oleg Maddox is god, and he can do no wrong.
If his 30mm lasts 10 seconds and the history books say 6, then the books are wrong.

At least thats how it works in the simhq.com forums.

[easymo]

My 300a celeron sneers at your eyecandy, and wonders where all the dogfighters have gone.

[GRUNHERZ]

Yep Animal I agree as I allready learned my lesson about giving game suggestions/crticizms on a certain BBS,   ,so I wasnt thinking about posting it on any IL2 BBS. Id rather correspond with Oleg directly if possible. Anyone have his email?

[ 12-12-2001: Message edited by: GRUNHERZ ]

[Hangtime]

Overall it's a good game, the graphics and damage model make it something for other games to consider.... but the rest of it, well it certainly isn't a "well rounded" game- more stacked in the eye candy department than anything else.
-SW
 

From the descriptions I've heard so far, it sounds to me kinda similar in reception to Janes WWII Fighters when it was released.

I was impressed by the Janes damage model, graphics and detailing; but the flight model sucked, etc.

This sounds like Janes with a reasonably decent flight model and no western front birds...

..which I guess is unfair and gratuitous since I havent bought the sim yet. I'll wait and decide when USAAF iorn becomes available.

[Zigrat]

in my opinion its silly to limit yourself to 1 countrys planes. im proud to be anamerican but it doesnt mean i wont put a red star on my plane in aa video game lol.

the FMS are not bad. they arent perfect either but they are believable. gunnery is good. grphics are awesome. coop missions are fun. and theres no monthly fee. i would buy it if i were you..

besides the p39 is in the game and its flyable... its an american bird  

[R4M]

Originally posted by SWulfe:
Cons:
When playing over UBI the warping on a 56K modem is amazingly horrid- who was it that said this thing would challenge MMP games if it ever went MMP? The hell it will, the net code can barely handle 12 people from the viewpoint of someone who uses a 56K modem. It's a *LITTLE* better using direct connection, but it still won't touch MMP games. Never.

Just have tried online play a couple times. I'm connected via a 56k modem (ADSL soon  ). Both times I was in, were between 8 and 14 ppl online, and connection was smooth. Dunno with more people. not tested it.-

It's not AH's arenas wich hundreds of ppl, but for no montly free, I'd say it beats AH's H2H hands down (of course, it SHOULD be expected to do it  )

 

View system- completely sucks. No 6 view. yes, you will have a hard time looking behind you if you hold yourself up against your chair- but in a Cozy kit plane that has inclined seating and your strapped in like a race car driver, I can clearly see the propellor behind me (it's a pusher plane). So please, spare me the "it's more realistic". It ain't, it would be using 3D glasses but that just ain't in the cards yet.

Well, gotta disagree here. AH has way more incredible views than Il-2. True that Il-2 does not allow you to "move" your head out of the positions it has built in. But in WWII the pilots had attachments, and they couldn't put half their head thru the cockpit plexiglass (and that happens in certain AH cockpits  ).

No six view is OK and fine. You STILL can see your six, just its not a direct view...and it recreates much better the problems of limited 6 views in some planes:

View of a 109G6/late
 

View of a LaGG-3.
 

Notice that your "six" is into the visual field. Just not in the MIDDLE of it. No linda blairs.

Could be better, but to say it "sucks" is go too far, IMO.

Campaign- What the hell? Looks like they just half-assed that section. I'd expect more from a game that's single player and when the netcode is okay at best. [/b]

HAve you tried the dynamic campaign designer?. Very nice IMO