rams??

[Ghosth]

Killnu its dead simple.

If you "see" a collision on your end, you take the appropriate damage. If you see a miss, you don't take damage.

The only person who can cause or prevent a collision is you.

Because of Internet lag what you see may be slightly different than what he sees.

There's only about 16 zillion threads on this subject.

[killnu]

so its connection?  because i have cable vs dial up i suffer?  seems like crap.

[FTJR]

I would like to know as well.

Yesterday I had a very short rolling sissors with a p51. Just as he rolled towards me I thought I'd won. Fired everything I had. My planes nose was pointed at the top of his planes nose. I thought I was just going to pull through and rake him. A split second later, a bang, then pilot blood then tower..

I accept it as part of Ah .. but I'd like to know why. I generally ping around 250-300
..Regards

[jaxxo]

i lose 99 % of them as well..this implies in todays hitech online world that i  somehow have a better connection from my local cable company than 99% of the ah community? well Brighthouse will be happy to hear that. There has to be another reason..not buying the "faster connection" crap.

[FiLtH]

Try violently avoiding the impact at the last second. Chances are the enemy is still goin for the shot. If thats the case odds are his side with record the hit.

[tactic]

I hook up at about   26,400 on dial up.  ping around 200 +-    I lose rams too 90% of the time, if not 99%

[hitech]

Truly amazing how everone looses 90% of collisions.


Funy thing is, what you see is what you get, it is just that the other guy didn't see the same thing. So there realy is not way to loose a collision, you just take damage from a collision 100 % of the time, just like the other guy does. Once you understand this, it will make it less frustating for you.


HiTech

[killnu]

why is it then, that I seem to be saying"nice ram" vs others saying it to me then 90+% of the time?  i have very rarely seen guy go down because of collision im in, i have seen it once or twice, but thats about it.  am i "seeing" it because of better connect?

[Booz]

The point is, any collision is your fault. It's only what you see that matters. It's calculated on your front end, it's only you that can avoid it. If you're getting into constant collisions you should work on staying a bit farther away from solid objects in the air around you. Maybe others understand that and don't bother saying "nice ram".

  Yes, I've had rare collisions where the guy cut across my path in rolling scissors.... I should have anticipated & reacted. My plane hit him. I've also seen the same guy vanish in a puff though he was 30yds away in my view, also rare. The life of net gaming. But if you back off just a bit, it will happen less. Sounds to me you're just a touch too agressive and pushing in closer than necessary, cause I know you're a decent stick.


Booz

  p.s. apologies for previous statement, I truly thought you were only complaining about head on rams.

[lasersailor184]

so its connection? because i have cable vs dial up i suffer? seems like crap.

Aces High reacts the same on a T3 cable as it does on a 56k.

If another plane hits yours, you die.

Having one connection over the other is not an advantage.

[killnu]

Having one connection over the other is not an advantage.

 

so, what is it then, that my "end" see's collision and other does not all the dang time?

The point is, any collision is your fault.

sorry, but disagree with that statement, just because my end seen it, dont make it "my fault".

you should work on staying a bit farther away from solid objects in the air around you.

game be pretty boring if i did that...oh no a plane, runnnnnnn?  no thanks.  i fire 200-400, i dont hit much from further away.  you kinda have to get close to kill stuff.

[lasersailor184]

Maybe because you're a bad pilot.  


No, you perceive it to be 90% of the time, but I bet it's closer to 50-50.  It just doesn't register with your mind when it happens the rest of the time.

[jaxxo]

"Funy thing is, what you see is what you get, it is just that the other guy didn't see the same thing. So there realy is not way to loose a collision, you just take damage from a collision 100 % of the time, just like the other guy does. Once you understand this, it will make it less frustating for you."

SO if I take damage 100% of the time this does not make me feel better lol...i also have  furballed enuff to know some guys seem to exploit this anomaly by using it to their advantage.

I actually get into collision alot do to my style of fighting in the furball...i definitely notice it when i win one and it rarely happens...also the other plane does not take the damage because his "end" didnt see it...I realize its part of the game..its just frustrating for me personaly to lose them all the the time.


EOR

[TimRas]

There are two ways to implement damage to both sides in collision:

1. Collision happens only if both FE's see the collision. This can result in collisions to become quite rare (due to lag), so planes can actually fly thru eachother most of the time.

2. Collision happens if either FE sees collision and damage is transferred to other plane as well. Similar to killshooter. This probably result in some whining as well, as the other player don't necessarily see collision at all but still gets the damage.

[wrag]

Hmm ......

Found myself in a couple of fights that resulted in a RAM.

The other guy even said he didn't fire.

I went down.

My connect is right around 280 ping.

My connect is dialup at 37333.

Happens.

At the time I saw the ram about to happen but the angle, speed, and everything was such that I couldn't avoid it.