Author Topic: raider179 was right... (Read 7963 times)

beet1e · « **Reply #435 on:** September 28, 2005, 04:02:31 PM »

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Originally posted by FiLtH
Im probably late in chiming in here but out of all the laws..the seatbelt has to be one of the better ones. Motorcycle helmet and eye protection are also good laws. .

Whey-hey! And from New Hampshire, no less!!

:aok:aok

I've driven through NH c1988 - stayed at Gorham - loved the state. Vermont too.

Godzilla · « **Reply #436 on:** September 28, 2005, 04:12:23 PM »

Helmet laws and seatbelt laws have nothing to do with ensuring your safety or reducing health care costs.

Would more people die in accidents if they did not wear a helmet or a seatbelt? Dieing is probably cheaper for society.

beet1e · « **Reply #437 on:** September 28, 2005, 04:26:22 PM »

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Originally posted by Godzilla
Helmet laws and seatbelt laws have nothing to do with ensuring your safety

Bollocks. The facts are there for all to see.

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Would more people die in accidents if they did not wear a helmet or a seatbelt?

Yes.

Godzilla · « **Reply #438 on:** September 28, 2005, 04:28:21 PM »

Then if more people died rather than survived, wouldn't it be less expensive?

Toad · « **Reply #439 on:** September 28, 2005, 04:28:39 PM »

Beet, it's the equivalent of asking if BBS members at Handgun Control think that the government should pass another law restricting guns.

It's not any sort of random sample. You poll is meaningless.

Godzilla · « **Reply #440 on:** September 28, 2005, 04:34:36 PM »

Princess Dianna would probably be alive today is she had been wearing proper protection.

beet1e · « **Reply #441 on:** September 28, 2005, 04:40:46 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad
Beet, it's the equivalent of asking if BBS members at Handgun Control think that the government should pass another law restricting guns.

It's not any sort of random sample. You poll is meaningless.

Only because it won't yield the result you'd like it to yield.

OK, you tell me the sort of BBS on which I should post my poll to reveal a "meaningful" result. Maybe on the Home Counties crochet and flower arranging club website??? Oh, and by the way - for the third time - my poll was not whether the seat belt law has been a success (it clearly has been) but asked the respondent his/her opinion on the nannying aspect of the law.

Godzilla · « **Reply #442 on:** September 28, 2005, 04:42:34 PM »

Beetle, just take a poll here.

Godzilla · « **Reply #443 on:** September 28, 2005, 04:45:04 PM »

A poll with nine responces is not something I'd consider as meaningful in the least.

beet1e · « **Reply #444 on:** September 28, 2005, 04:49:01 PM »

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Originally posted by Godzilla
Beetle, just take a poll here.

Why don't you do it yourself?

beet1e · « **Reply #445 on:** September 28, 2005, 04:49:36 PM »

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Originally posted by Godzilla
A poll with nine responces is not something I'd consider as meaningful in the least.

It's not over yet, dolt! It has 5 days to run.

Toad · « **Reply #446 on:** September 28, 2005, 04:51:54 PM »

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Originally posted by beet1e
Only because it won't yield the result you'd like it to yield.

Hardly. I don't care what it yields. You're drawing answers from a biased population. You're asking people who are drawn to a "road safety" bbs if they think government mandated seatbelt wearing is "nannying".

As I said, it's like asking Handgun Control BBS posters if they think the assault weapons ban was "nannying".

Of course they won't. Those folks willingly give the government power over themselves for a bit of perceived safety.

It's why they joined Handgun Control.

It'd be like me going to an NRA board and asking them if they think the assault weapons ban is "nannying". You wouldn't have any problem with that result, I'm sure.

beet1e · « **Reply #447 on:** September 28, 2005, 05:02:02 PM »

LOL Mr. Toad!

Look, I don't have any agenda. I think you know this. I'm not looking to skew the results - I just want to know how people feel about the nannying aspect of the seatbelt law. If you don't think I can obtain an objective assessment on the site where I've posted it, then can YOU suggest a website impartial to the seatbelt issue???

Toad · « **Reply #448 on:** September 28, 2005, 05:18:34 PM »

For any hope of objectivity I suspect it would have to be a random sample of a significant number of people.

Sort of like they do on Presidential political polls.

~25 folks on a "Road Safety" board isn't objective... that's for sure.

beet1e · « **Reply #449 on:** September 28, 2005, 06:01:31 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad
For any hope of objectivity I suspect it would have to be a random sample of a significant number of people.

So do you agree that rules out ANY BBS?

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~25 folks on a "Road Safety" board isn't objective... that's for sure.

the poll is only in Day 3 - it won't be finished for another 5 days.

So what poll WOULD you feel is accurate? Can you think of a site that would match your own views and therefore yield the "correct" result - the result you would approve of? Because your response so far has been the Jackal-style "Ameritard" kneejerk response. - Deny everything, unless it's the result you WANT. LOL - even Jacques Chirac could not have done better with the EU constitution.