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Nash · « **Reply #45 on:** October 14, 2005, 10:57:11 PM »

Not at all.

It is in fact a shame how few of you actually vote. Because it matters.

But one man's vote in Dixon doesn't take a single thing away from anything I say... the idea of it is pathetic.

The use of it, desperate or just lazy.

Toad · « **Reply #46 on:** October 14, 2005, 10:58:47 PM »

Since 1900 the Democrats held the Presidency for more than two consecutive terms just one time. 1932-1948 Roosevelt, Roosevelt, Roosevelt, Roosevelt, Truman.

Since 1900 the Republicans held the Presidency for more than two consecutive terms just one time. 1980-1988 Reagan, Reagan, Bush.

I think it's pretty unusual for the American public to give the Presidency to the same party three times in a row.

This one is the Democrats to lose. The last one really was too... so don't count them out.

Toad · « **Reply #47 on:** October 14, 2005, 11:02:16 PM »

But you're wrong Nash. We DO have a say, even if it's one vote in our particular state. Like an ocean is made up of tiny drops of water, a Presidential election victory is a conglomeration of millions of tiny little votes in each state.

Now which state are you voting in in 2008?

You're free to have your opinion; we all do, just like we all have .... jettison chutes.

But when the voting booths open here, they aren't going to let you in.

Nash · « **Reply #48 on:** October 14, 2005, 11:06:02 PM »

That's the funny thing.

The Republicans are constantly crying their eyes out.

"This is an outrage, that is an outrage."

In the last 25 years, how many of those years was a Democrat in office?

Eight?

Of the Government now - how many branches do the Democrats control?

None?

The criers want a Kleenex?

That's like asking me to feel sorry for a kid in a car sticking his neck out to mess with a bike rider and getting his head stripped clean off. Sorry - I aint gonna shed a tear.

Nash · « **Reply #49 on:** October 14, 2005, 11:08:33 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad
But you're wrong Nash. We DO have a say, even if it's one vote in our particular state. Like an ocean is made up of tiny drops of water, a Presidential election victory is a conglomeration of millions of tiny little votes in each state.

Now which state are you voting in in 2008?

You're free to have your opinion; we all do, just like we all have .... jettison chutes.

But when the voting booths open here, they aren't going to let you in.

That's quaint.... I mean - that's funny man. Were you trying to be?

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #50 on:** October 14, 2005, 11:43:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Nash
That's the funny thing.

The Republicans are constantly crying their eyes out.

"This is an outrage, that is an outrage."

In the last 25 years, how many of those years was a Democrat in office?

Eight?

Depends on which office you refer.

You see the US government consists of three branches. The Judicial, the Legislative, and the Executive. The Legislative consists of two houses, the Senate and the House of Representatives. The Senate is made up of......

Nash · « **Reply #51 on:** October 14, 2005, 11:46:26 PM »

That's very interesting.

Gee.... whooda thunk. I had no idea.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #52 on:** October 14, 2005, 11:52:56 PM »

Nash now you are just flailing your arms up in the air saying "look at me, look at me, I have a point to make" but a point we do not get, much like the entire democratic party except when we hear "bush is the evil"

Again what message do they have that is so much better than the republicans? You brought up Bush's poll numbers but really he's a lame duck president, do they really count?

Nash · « **Reply #53 on:** October 14, 2005, 11:58:48 PM »

A "lame duck" merely a half a year from his man date?

Lame duck happens two years into the 2nd term.

6 months and it's like, all expected that he should be lame? No siree.

If that were the case, why not limit it to 4 years max?

Otherwise it's like, "4 years in, then 4 years of uselessness".... as if half a Presidency of ineffectual garbage should be a given.

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #54 on:** October 15, 2005, 12:00:11 AM »

I was trying to humorously point out the compromise necessary in the federal government. Sorry you didn't catch that.

From FDR to Gingrich one party controlled the House, and except for a two year term or two the Senate as well.

A tremendous amont of legislation was passed during these seven or so decades. Legislation which increased the government outlay for entitlements pretty much cannot be touched.

With the majority of government outlay off limits for controls, spending and the strings that go with that spending has changed American society.

The Great Society welfare programs gave money to single mothers and by the law of unintended consequenses forced the father role model out of poor families causing all sorts of problems.

This problem cannot be solved in a year or a decade. The foundation for Social Security problem we are wrestling with was layed in the depths of the great depression, 70 years ago. This problem cannot be solved quickly.

10 years of legislature control is not enough time to fundamentally change the inertia of the ship of state. Especially when that control is not absolute. Compromise is practiced continuously.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #55 on:** October 15, 2005, 12:04:33 AM »

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Originally posted by Nash
A "lame duck" merely a half a year from his man date?

Lame duck happens two years into the 2nd term.

6 months and it's like, all expected that he should be lame? No siree.

If that were the case, why not limit it to 4 years max?

Otherwise it's like, "4 years in, then 4 years of uselessness".... as if half a Presidency of ineffectual garbage should be a given.

AGAIN this is ALL we hear from the democrats. Elighten us please! What are our alternatives?

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"look at me, look at me, I have a point to make"

Nash · « **Reply #56 on:** October 15, 2005, 12:08:32 AM »

Yeah I know what you were " humorously" pointing out.

I don't think it's that funny. So I skipped it.

Human nature is what it is. Government cannot dictate nor control it. Forget about it. It is nevertheless thier job to govern it.

You go to war with the army you have.

Some governments preside over their country - and others spend their time wishing thier country was something else and trying to govern a country that isn't, and will never be.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #57 on:** October 15, 2005, 12:16:01 AM »

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Originally posted by Nash
Yeah I know what you were " humorously" pointing out.

I don't think it's that funny. So I skipped it.

Human nature is what it is. Government cannot dictate nor control it. Forget about it. It is nevertheless thier job to govern it.

You go to war with the army you have.

Some governments preside over their country - and others spend their time wishing thier country was something else and trying to govern a country that isn't, and will never be.

again more retoric worthy of the DNC railing against the "bush regiem" Nothing about what you'd do better. Nothing about what you'd change. Nothing positive. Nothing we havn't heard the last 5 years.

Tell me again how the democrats are going to sweep the next elections with this mesage?

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Oops almost forgot:

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"look at me, look at me, I have a point to make"

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #58 on:** October 15, 2005, 12:33:24 AM »

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Some governments preside over their country - and others spend their time wishing thier country was something else and trying to govern a country that isn't, and will never be.

Many possible Olympic Champions are not because they never wished enough.

Nash · « **Reply #59 on:** October 15, 2005, 12:33:59 AM »

Touching.

Too bad, eh?