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Offline Thud

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« on: April 12, 2001, 05:26:00 AM »
My newspaper reported last monday that the chinese South Chinese Morning Post published an article based on Chinese sources revealing that during the intercept another chinese jet (not one of the F-8's) repeatedly asked authorization to shoot the EP-3 down after the collision. Fortunately the chinese authorities didn't authorize it, but think what if.....
Then it would become a lot more than a diplomatic crisis.


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Offline Gh0stFT

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« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2001, 05:50:00 AM »
i read, survaillence flights close to enemy border ARE quite dangerous
and should not be mistaken for holiday trips !  

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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2001, 05:51:00 AM »
What Gh0st said....

Howdy Gh0st btw  

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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2001, 06:27:00 AM »
well said ghost..and the Chinese (gov at least) should not be mistaken as people who give a damn about life, not of its own people and certinley not about the lives of people who migh be spying on their giant commie shotbox......

In China Your are guilty until proven more guilty and put to death...

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« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2001, 08:08:00 AM »
Here, let me edit your post, Ghost:

survaillence flights close to borders of nations THAT HAVE NO RESPECT FOR INTERNATIONAL LAW ARE quite dangerous
and should not be mistaken for holiday trips
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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2001, 09:53:00 AM »
 
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Here, let me edit your post, Ghost:

survaillence flights close to borders of nations THAT HAVE NO RESPECT FOR INTERNATIONAL LAW ARE quite dangerous
and should not be mistaken for holiday trips

 That is a grammatically correct but pointless sentence.
 There is no need to perform surveillance flights against the countries that have respect for international law.

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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2001, 10:11:00 AM »
Agree Ghost

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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2001, 10:26:00 AM »
US speaking about international law!? What a nonsence!

Oh, sorry, American idea of an "international law" is "something everyone should obey, but we don't give a flying F@#$ about it, because it's only for all that dirty commies and other Chineese untermenschen".


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« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2001, 10:39:00 AM »
 
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[BThere is no need to perform surveillance flights against the countries that have respect for international law.
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Hmmm... I've seen pics of Finnish fighters "escorting" NATO's awacs near Finnish borders. Are you saying we are not respecting int.laws ?  
Also one SR-71 pilot admitted he's been over Finland sometimes... (Thought reason was that thing needed 500km to make 180 degree turn at full speed...)

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« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2001, 10:40:00 AM »
 
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There is no need to perform surveillance flights against the countries that have respect for international law.

 Not true, america keeps a eye on every other nation. As all other nations (providing they have the resources) keep a eye on everyone else.
 Its much like you do with your next door neighbour. You may be friendly but your waiting for his dog to come sh*t in your yard. It is the way of the world & anyone that doesnt understand it is the loser.

 
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Oh, sorry, American idea of an "international law" is "something everyone should obey, but we don't give a flying F@#$ about it,
              because it's only for all that dirty commies and other Chineese untermenschen".

 Regardless of what country you live in you reside in a society of laws. You have local law, city law, state law, federal law & international law.
 These laws are recognized by all members of the community. Some members chose not to obey these laws. Locally speaking they are called criminals. Internationaly speaking they are rougue states.
 As we punish criminals we can also punish rouge states. Failure to recognize International law doenst place you above it just as a local thug isnt above local & state law.

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« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2001, 11:13:00 AM »
Submarine excursions that have no respect for international law can assist in one's aging process!!

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« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2001, 11:32:00 AM »
Flashpan, so we need to punish US for pirate bombings of independant states, supporting international terrorism, violating international treaties, breaking international borders - should I continue?

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« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2001, 12:03:00 PM »
 
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Flashpan, so we need to punish US for pirate bombings of independant states, supporting international terrorism, violating
              international treaties, breaking international borders - should I continue?

 I do not disagree with some of the things you have mentioned. We as anyone would, are acting in our own best interests. We do however try to temper that with fairness.
 When we bombed people we did so with 100% confidence that the people being bombed were either a threat in the past or a immediate threat to the people of the USA.
 Our border incursions are kinda like your neighbours dog running in your yard. Its usally brief & a accident when we do it. We deifinatly do not sh*t in your yard.
 The PC3 incident is a perfect example. We were flying 12 miles out. The recognized international boundry. The chinease claim 20mi so they created this incident.
 I am ass-u-me'ing the supporting international terrism that you are refering to is when we armed the aphigans <sp> during your vietnam there.
 They were a people that was being invaded. They supported democracy & were then by extension our allies.
 It is no differant then 15yrs earlier with the soviets armining the North Koreans & then the chinease.
 To the best of my knowledge the US has never violated a international treaty.

 And as far as punishing the US goes in all honesty I do not think that another country can. The way most countries punsih another country is through a embargo & trade tarrifs. The US is so strong enconomicly & has nearly every other country tied to it financially that should a country choose to place a embargo on the US they would be cutting there own throat....

 The amricans have a saying. Never bite the hand that feeds you.

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« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2001, 12:49:00 PM »
Every one of those things you mentioned that the USA has done, Russia has done 50 times worse.

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« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2001, 12:41:00 AM »
We are in dire need of a squelch button for boroda here in this bbs. What a load of ****!!!

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