that your 2% black population
Made up number.
nope... take away all the black on black homicides for both countries and the homicide rate for both is about the same.
No. Take away all homicides committed by black people in the US and the US still has a rate of about 2.7 per 100,000. The figure for England and Wales, including the Black and urban population, is about 1.7 per 100,000. Excluding London, but including the highest crime area in Britain, greater Manchester, the rate is 1.4 per 100,000
It doesn't matter how many times you repeat it, lazs, it still isn't true.
nashwan... so you would rather see maybe 100 dead shopkeppers?
No, I'd rather none, like in the French riots, or the various British riots.
it is a fact that most of the korean shopkeepers openly defended their shops and were never even bothered.
That's not what the Koreans say. Damage to Korean property was immense, 350 shops burnt out, another 1,700 looted or otherwise damaged. A third of Korean buisnesses were so badly damaged they never reopened.
How would they have fared without firearms openly displayed?
Lazs, if a gun gives a citizen the power to defend themselves against a criminal, what do you think a gun does
for a criminal? The same way that you feel safe because you've got a gun, the criminal also feels safe that he's got one. It gives him the courage to commit crimes.
Whilst you feel invinvible, and can't comprehend a situation in which the criminal might actually shoot you, he feels the same, and can't comprehend the situation in which his victim might shoot him.
He actually has more reason to feel confident, as he will have the initiative in any encounter, because he's the one who instigates it.
Are you suggesting that they would have all been better off if none of the law abiding was armed?
I'm suggesting they'd have been better off if the rioters weren't armed.
and... the 17 killed by drivebys may have been a higher number... many gang members used the riot as cover to take revenge on other gang members... I had read where allmost all the dead had long police records.
Of course you had. If someone gets shot, blame the victim.
The "drivebys" weren't against people walking on the sidewalk out for a stroll in the riot.
Again, blame the victim.
In Lazs world, if someone gets shot, they must be a criminal, because the good guys never get shot.
Most Americans would rather die in a gunfight than to live through the beating that truck driver got and was filmed... he has to live with that for the rest of his life.
Perhaps it would be better to be like Matthew Haines, pulled off his motorbike, beaten, then shot dead?
Denny survived, and made a pretty full recovery.
If you think having a handgun on you will save you from a mob, I suggest you look at the film of the attack on Derek Wood and David Howes, two British army corprals in Northern Ireland, who took a wrong turn int heir car, were set upon by a mob, pulled from their car and murdered. Both had pistols.
But... I know that you will never understand that... that is why we threw you guys out allmost 250 years ago... you didn't get it then and you don't get it now. You believe that the more the stupid and dangerous humans around you are restricted... the better it will be for everyone... we believe the more free you are to make your own choices and the less government you have the better off you will be.
Not at all. I wouldn't put up with many of the restrictions you put up with. I wouldn't accept my government's right to detain me indefinately without trial, as you do.
I just recognise that letting everyone have free access to tools designed to kill people is a bit silly.
Your government does too, which is why they ban the more effective tools designed to kill people, like chemical, biological and nuclear weapons.
