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Offline Ripsnort

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« on: January 10, 2001, 08:00:00 AM »
Vermont State Rep. Fred Maslack has read the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution as well as Vermont's own Constitution very carefully, and his strict interpretation of these documents is popping some eyeballs in New England and elsewhere.

   Maslack recently proposed a bill to register non-gunowners and require them to pay a $500 fee to the state. Thus Vermont would become the first state to require a permit for the luxury of going about unarmed and assess a fee of $500 for the privilege of not owning a gun.

   Maslack read the "militia" phrase of the Second Amendment as not only affirming the right of the individual citizen to bear arms, but as a clear mandate to do so. He believes that universal gun ownership was advocated by the Framers of the Constitution as an antidote to a "monopoly of force" by the government as well as criminals.

   Vermont's constitution states explicitly that "the people have a right to bear arms for the defense of themselves and the State" and those persons who "conscientiously scrupulous of bearing arms" shall be required to "pay such equivalent." Clearly, says Maslack, Vermonters have a constitutional obligation to arm themselves so that they are capable of responding to "any situation that may arise".

   Under the bill, adults who choose not to own a firearm would be required to register their name, address, Social Security Number, and driver's license number with the state. "There is a legitimate government interest in knowing who is prepared to defend the state should they be asked to do so," Maslack says.

   Vermont already boasts a high rate of gun ownership along with the least restrictive laws of any state - it's currently the only state that allows a citizen to carry a concealed firearm without a permit. This combination of plenty of guns and few laws regulating them has resulted in a crime rate that is the third lowest in the nation.



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Offline leonid

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« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2001, 08:06:00 AM »
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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2001, 08:33:00 AM »
I agree with the Vermont guy!!  I also say everyone should buy a carton of Cigs a week.  Those that don't should be arrested for child abuse.  You see, a poor child health care government program is funded by a tax on tobacco!!  It's time you started to pay your fair share!!!

If ya don't smoke just give your carton to a friend that smokes  You will appear as a generous person  Helping your friend and America's under privileged children.  "It takes a village" ya know!!!

Offline leonid

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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2001, 08:36:00 AM »
All I know is this would make Tinky Winky very sad!

     

Bye bye!  Bye bye!

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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2001, 08:43:00 AM »
Please not another gun-control thread, im sick of reading opinons from brits and wherever who dont even live here pissing all over our right to bear arms.  I dont mind people from the USA saying it stupid, because they actually live here and think that way from some valid experences that they have had, not some idgit screaming its wrong because some nanny and his professor at the finishing school said that guns are bad and that the barbaric americans have them because they are dumb violent people, this coming from people with hot tea, crazy cows, and bad teeth  

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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2001, 09:17:00 AM »
I would assume that once this kind of bill is established everywhere - we can disband army and all the other armed forces - since we will be unbeatable ?

This is about as retarded as it gets....


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Offline Yeager

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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2001, 09:34:00 AM »
LOL,

All able bodied citizens, Men and Women, should be required to muster for two years service in the military, then upon completion of such service be required to keep and maintain a well regulated fully automatic weapon with 2000 rounds ammuntion.

Leonid, you whimp  

JUST KIDDING!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2001, 09:45:00 AM »
FDSKI- would you tell that to the Russians please?  A friend of mine in the Navy had a sort of "Open House' with a Russain naval vessel in NYC back in 1990, during the dissolve of the Cold War.  He had a chance to speak with a high ranking member of the Soviet Navy, and asked him one simple question: "Would have the Soviet Union ever thought it may be successful in attacking the U.S. without nuclear weapons, but in a convention weapons style war?"

His answer was "No, because your citizens are armed and it would be very difficult for us to elminate the privately-owned firearms your citizens carry."

 

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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2001, 10:00:00 AM »
WOW!

Wouldn't that piss off the libs!

Oh Well, they can always move to Massachussetts.

After a generation growing up on Sesame Street and Barney it is refreshing to see someone actually has the balls to  bring the issue up.

Any non smokers who decide to support the efforts against child abuse can send their cigarettes to me.

Hey The Wobble, ya got a choice ya know.
If you are sick of reading opinions on a particular subject....Don't.

Ain't Tinky Winky a Brit?

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Will I be roasted for my obviously right wing tendencies?}
[Probably, not, as soon as they figure out you actually type stuff to yourself they will probably write you off as the nut case you are.]
{But, what if TW gets upset, whatever will I do?}
[Do not concern yourself 'Chaser, in a couple days this thread will be buried with the other 7 zillion and somthing new will surface to irk the right or left leaners and the medication should kick in any minute now.]


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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2001, 10:09:00 AM »
Oh the possibilities.   Here's the plan! We all win Powerball. We all go out and buy our favorite WWII fighter and a Township of land. Then we buy out every junk yard in the state. Then, Then! We arm all of these planes with there original arms. Then! We fly around strafing the hell out of all these old cars! It's way better than having an engine hanging in the tree and an old car with the hood up in the front yard!  

The state of Oregon is fairly liberal on there gun ownership also.

Offline Ripsnort

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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2001, 02:44:00 PM »
Also, for anti-gun rights folks, read this and read it carefully, think you'll be surprised that the states with the LEAST gun control laws actually have been shown to have less violent crimes, again, you take away gun rights from private citizens, you make them more vulnerable to criminals.
 http://www.enterstageright.com/0101wakefield.htm

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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2001, 05:44:00 PM »
Just so you know my 1st replay is tongue in cheek. I own several guns. If I won Powerball I'd run out and buy a P-47 (because I hear the cockpit will handle taller people) and find a state that would let me arm the dang thing so I could blow the snot outta junk cars on my property. So there!   Fun for the whole family.    

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« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2001, 05:54:00 PM »
so, if you have a M16, AK47 and a M60 in your house, you get a $ surplus from the state?

(oh, my   )

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« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2001, 07:17:00 PM »
One word: REDNECKS

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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2001, 07:31:00 PM »
LOL! Tac, noo this goes beyone redneck, we are talking milita-neck, folks that convert their bedroom into a gun safe, You know you are dealing with one of these folks when he asks you "goin deer huntin, should I use JHP,AP, or HE? (evil grin after HE).