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Offline Sakai

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« Reply #105 on: December 02, 2005, 08:36:49 AM »
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Yup


This game is over, he cited something he thought was accurate, it was falsifiable.  That means all this ranting on this subject by the right wing is not reasonable enouh or accurate enough to spend any more time on:  it's wrong, it's insupportable, it's over.  

Sorry for calling you stupid, that was out of line.  Please accept my apology for same.  

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« Reply #106 on: December 02, 2005, 01:07:22 PM »
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Yup



when the truth bites back :)
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« Reply #107 on: December 02, 2005, 06:27:44 PM »
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109th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. J. RES. 73
To redeploy U.S. forces from Iraq.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

November 17, 2005

SECTION 1. The deployment of United States forces in Iraq, by direction of Congress, is hereby terminated and the forces involved are to be redeployed at the earliest practicable date.

If this is not cut and run the distinction is too fine for me and AlJazeera to comprehend.


THankyou for posting this.
You make Sakais case.
This isnt a dem saying this. It is Reps saying it. Murtha never said it.
LOL
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« Reply #108 on: December 02, 2005, 09:35:20 PM »
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THankyou for posting this.
You make Sakais case.
This isnt a dem saying this. It is Reps saying it. Murtha never said it.
LOL


???????

H. J. Res 73 is Murtha's bill.  You are the second response attributing it to the Republicans.

Here, I'll even get ya started.

Cheers.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2005, 09:46:53 PM by Casca »
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« Reply #109 on: December 03, 2005, 12:46:49 AM »
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???????

H. J. Res 73 is Murtha's bill.  You are the second response attributing it to the Republicans.

Here, I'll even get ya started.

Cheers.


My Apologies Casca:)
Casca can you tell me where the Rep counter is located as I cant find it?

If you do consider it cut and run I wont argue that:) It is only one war hero and ultra supporter of the military who said thisThe opinion is not mine to cut and run.... I just want the truth as to whether we were lied to. So let the non partisan investigations begin. NOT !!! :)

SECTION 1. The deployment of United States forces in Iraq, by direction of Congress, is hereby terminated and the forces involved are to be redeployed at the earliest practicable date.

Earliest practical date is the key phrase here.
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« Reply #110 on: December 03, 2005, 03:06:51 AM »
srry fellas, murtha is a disgrace to the USMC.  If he had any class he would have  taken this debate up in closed door session.  Taking it public like he has disqualifies him from semper fidelis.  He is a sad pathetic retired marine, but most importantly, a democratic congressman.

IwoJima be damned, murtha is here to sell you out....


ps skyrock...dod you ever come up with any link on the 30,000 innocent panamanians murdered by the US military in the invasion to oust the drug smuggling noriega?
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« Reply #111 on: December 03, 2005, 06:18:52 AM »
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My Apologies Casca:)
Casca can you tell me where the Rep counter is located as I cant find it?

If you do consider it cut and run I wont argue that:) It is only one war hero and ultra supporter of the military who said thisThe opinion is not mine to cut and run.... I just want the truth as to whether we were lied to. So let the non partisan investigations begin. NOT !!! :)

SECTION 1. The deployment of United States forces in Iraq, by direction of Congress, is hereby terminated and the forces involved are to be redeployed at the earliest practicable date.

Earliest practical date is the key phrase here.

 
No problem Silat

The Republican bill is H. Res. 572 and was sponsored by Duncan Hunter.  I freely admit that it was political chicanery but it made for an entertaining evening as I was stuck on the road the night it was brought to the floor and listened to it on C-Span radio.

As for the grammer I would maintain that  "earliest practical date" is the second half of a compound sentence that modifies the simple declaration "The deployment of the United States forces in Iraq, by direction of Congress, is hereby terminated".  I will concede that "earliest practical date" can mean whatever one wants it to mean.
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« Reply #112 on: December 03, 2005, 10:40:21 AM »
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srry fellas, murtha is a disgrace to the USMC.  If he had any class he would have  taken this debate up in closed door session.  Taking it public like he has disqualifies him from semper fidelis.  He is a sad pathetic retired marine, but most importantly, a democratic congressman.

IwoJima be damned, murtha is here to sell you out....


ps skyrock...dod you ever come up with any link on the 30,000 innocent panamanians murdered by the US military in the invasion to oust the drug smuggling noriega?


I disagree with you about the disgrace part I totally agree with you about the closed door session.  It would have been entirly more appropriate to bing it to a debate without all the political grand standing.
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« Reply #113 on: December 03, 2005, 12:18:03 PM »
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I disagree with you about the disgrace part I totally agree with you about the closed door session.  It would have been entirly more appropriate to bing it to a debate without all the political grand standing.



The reps werent going to do anything as they dont have to Guns. They are in complete control. Murtha spoke his mind in public because that is the only way the reps listen to the dems and that is what America is all about. He is one of the great supporters of the military in Congress.

Lets hope when the dems are in power they are more willing to compromise with the reps than the reps are with them.
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« Reply #114 on: December 03, 2005, 12:31:06 PM »
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The reps werent going to do anything as they dont have to Guns. They are in complete control. Murtha spoke his mind in public because that is the only way the reps listen to the dems and that is what America is all about. He is one of the great supporters of the military in Congress.

Lets hope when the dems are in power they are more willing to compromise with the reps than the reps are with them.


Complete BS.  I sure of it that if we hadn't heard our troops compared to nazis and talks of bring them homw now without completing the mission that a closed debate would have been welcome.  Dems have done to much grandstanding the last two years denouncing the war and hurting the effort just to get to the president.  In the same breath I'd say they are just as desperate to get in power as the repubs. are to cling to it.
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« Reply #115 on: December 03, 2005, 12:32:02 PM »
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No problem Silat



Yes after rereading the text it does sound CUT and RUN..........
"Providing for consideration of the resolution expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that the deployment of United States forces in Iraq be terminated immediately and providing for consideration of the concurrent resolution (H . Con. Res . 308) directing the Clerk of the House of Representatives to make a technical correction in the enrollment of H.R. 3058. "

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« Reply #116 on: December 03, 2005, 12:43:49 PM »
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I disagree with you about the disgrace part


I don't think I've ever met a Marine, either active duty or formerly active duty that wasn't a good man. They truly are the few.
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« Reply #117 on: December 03, 2005, 01:48:58 PM »
just because someone served in the USMC doesnt exempt them from being human.  Last thing I heard murtha quoted as saying was that the us military was  "broken, worn out" and "living hand to mouth,"

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/12/01/D8E7H2EG0.html

Im sorry fellas, murtha is old and his mind is wearing out.  Either that or he is a drill bit on the democratic party tool for failure.

No good.  Thanks for the service murtha and oh yeah, semper fi mac!
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« Reply #118 on: December 03, 2005, 03:34:30 PM »
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I don't think I've ever met a Marine, either active duty or formerly active duty that wasn't a good man. They truly are the few.



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« Reply #119 on: December 03, 2005, 05:54:08 PM »
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ps skyrock...did you ever come up with any link on the 30,000 innocent panamanians murdered by the US military in the invasion to oust the drug smuggling noriega?


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Global security.org on "Operation Just Cause" The United States suffered 23 KIA and 324 WIA, with estimated enemy casualties around 450. There were an estimated 200 to 300 Panamanian civilian fatalities. Some were killed by the PDF, others inadvertently by US troops. More civilians almost certainly would have been killed or wounded had it not been for the discipline of the American forces and their stringent rules of engagement (ROE). However, the United Nations (UN) put the civilian death toll at 500; the Central American Human Rights Defense Commission (CODEHUCA) and the Peace and Justice Service of Panama both claimed between 2,000 to 3000; the Panamanian National Human Rights Commission and an independent inquiry by former Attorney- General Ramsey Clark claimed over 4,000.


Take it easy on Skyrock.  He was only off by a factor of 8 or 10... or 15... or maybe 100...
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