Author Topic: t34 vs tiger (Read 1598 times)

gman52nd · « **on:** November 16, 2005, 03:53:59 PM »

why cant a t34 kill a tiger

ATA · « **Reply #1 on:** November 16, 2005, 04:13:28 PM »

5 t34 can kill a tiger.
one on one,i dont think so

Karnak · « **Reply #2 on:** November 16, 2005, 04:25:41 PM »

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Originally posted by ATA
5 t34 can kill a tiger.
one on one,i dont think so

How? I spent a good long while offline yesterday pounding on the Tiger with the T-34. So far as I can tell the T-34 cannot hurt the Tiger.

And the fact that one of the three tanks in AH is outright 99.9% immune to the T-34 could explain to a large degree why the T-34 is so rarely seen.

The T-34/85 would have been a much better addion for AH I think.

ATA · « **Reply #3 on:** November 16, 2005, 04:34:43 PM »

You absolutely right,but its a game.You need to know what hit boxes you should hit to kill a tiger,spit,bomber or anything else.
Have you notice it's very hard to shoot down an "uber" pilot?
How many times you gotta hit them with cannons?Forget about 50 calls ....imposble.

Karnak · « **Reply #4 on:** November 16, 2005, 05:27:32 PM »

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Originally posted by ATA
You absolutely right,but its a game.You need to know what hit boxes you should hit to kill a tiger,spit,bomber or anything else.
Have you notice it's very hard to shoot down an "uber" pilot?
How many times you gotta hit them with cannons?Forget about 50 calls ....imposble.

Erm, no, I hadn't actually noticed that because it doesn't work that way at all. Yes, there are hit locations and in the case of the tanks these are probably modeled as having a certain armor thickness and slope whereas in aircraft it is simply hit points. The tank damage model is much more sophisticated than the aircraft damage model, despite surface appearances.

The top pilots take no more damage than anybody else does, they're just harder to hit. When you do hit them they die like anybody else.

ATA · « **Reply #5 on:** November 16, 2005, 10:41:54 PM »

Karnak,i guess you right....
But "uber" pilots know all the bugs in game,i've seen p38 or spit take off almost verticaly.......or tigers drive away after 3000 pounds of ord dropped on them and such.......

1K3 · « **Reply #6 on:** November 16, 2005, 10:46:15 PM »

Russian tank (T-34-76) in AH can't stand against late war 1944-45 Panzer IV Hs and Tigers. tank matchups would be very different if we have AH T-34 go up against 1942-43 Panzer IIIs and IVs.

Karnak · « **Reply #7 on:** November 16, 2005, 10:49:20 PM »

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Originally posted by ATA
Karnak,i guess you right....
But "uber" pilots know all the bugs in game,i've seen p38 or spit take off almost verticaly.......or tigers drive away after 3000 pounds of ord dropped on them and such.......

I have hit (got the hit sprite) a Tiger with a 500lb bomb and nothing happened other than the other guy saying how laoud it was and that wasn't a "top pilot". Tigers are just plain tough.

As to the 38 and Spit going VTOL, well, I've never seen that happen.

Larry · « **Reply #8 on:** November 16, 2005, 11:55:49 PM »

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The only way to kill a tiger in a T34 is to get behind it even then you have to get close and aim well.

doc1kelley · « **Reply #9 on:** November 17, 2005, 09:59:26 AM »

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Originally posted by Larry
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The only way to kill a tiger in a T34 is to get behind it even then you have to get close and aim well.

Not exactly true. About 6 months ago I was defending a port (forget which map) and was killed by all things, an LVT2 firing through a seawall and I couldn't hit him. This was NOT an LVT4 but only a 2 firing his machine guns. No I was not hit by ship guns as what was left of their fleet had bugged out and I was NOT hit by any ord from an aircraft. I have been killed in Tigers from PIV's also and sometimes with that special one hit and not up my arse either. Offline a tiger might be impervious to T-34 or PIV rounds, but that hasn't been my experience online.

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Seagoon · « **Reply #10 on:** November 17, 2005, 10:43:46 AM »

The only tank I drive is the T34, and I can tell you from practical experience that there is NO WAY to kill a Tiger with a T34. I've never managed to get in a position to drop a shot onto the rear engine deck armor, but I can tell you the shots bounce on every other portion of the Tiger except for the tracks.

The only way for a T34 to deal with a Tiger is to:

1) Run away and hide behind something
2) Track one side of the Tiger and then run around to the other side and get into a position where he can't depress his gun to hit you.
3) Run up to where you and he touch and then maintain direct contact. There is actually a point where because of barrell length you can fire at him, but he is too close to hit you. You still won't kill him, but it irritates the living day lights out of them. Plus he might disco during the engagement and give you the kill.

I usually try to opt for #1

What we really need now is the Sherman, so that T34 drivers like me will have something we can actually kill with impunity.

- SEAGOON

Lye-El · « **Reply #11 on:** November 17, 2005, 07:04:27 PM »

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Originally posted by Seagoon

What we really need now is the Sherman, so that T34 drivers like me will have something we can actually kill with impunity.

- SEAGOON

Well, that would at least be a use for a Sherman.

Pongo · « **Reply #12 on:** November 17, 2005, 08:11:33 PM »

Ya the 85 would have been way more appropriate for the game. Too bad no one thought of it before hand.

Bodhi · « **Reply #13 on:** November 17, 2005, 09:38:17 PM »

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Originally posted by 1K3
Russian tank (T-34-76) in AH can't stand against late war 1944-45 Panzer IV Hs and Tigers. tank matchups would be very different if we have AH T-34 go up against 1942-43 Panzer IIIs and IVs.

That is such an incorrect statement it is not funny. Tiger's were killed on numerous occasions by T-34-41's and T-34-41imps

Do a little research of actual combat reports instead of reading penetration charts before you claim something.

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #14 on:** November 17, 2005, 09:44:01 PM »

2 or 3 tours ago I hopped in a T-34 for chits and giggles and sat on a hill top shelling an enemy field. All of a sudden this Tiger spawns from the VH and I fire a couple of ranging shots at it and then when I got the bearings, I nailed it from 2000 yards and it blew up. The other guy immediately called me a cheater for using an aim bot.

It can kill a Tiger but I guess it all depends on where you hit it. When the Tiger first came out, I was able to kill one with an M8 by hitting it repeatedly in the engine section.

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