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Offline Zazen13

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« Reply #120 on: November 30, 2005, 02:24:24 PM »
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you can be very stupid. In this instance ... you were very stupid.

 


Yup, you guys have me pegged, I'm very, very stupid!  ;)

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« Reply #121 on: November 30, 2005, 02:25:48 PM »
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So, only turnfighters can dogfight, E fighters who use energy management, speed and marksmanship cannot by definition dogfight according to you?
There's going to be alot of P51, F4U, F6F, P47 and Fw190 pilots that are going to be very sad they lied in their after action reports during WW2 saying they were in a dogfight with Spits, Zekes, Ki's, 109s when they actually weren't according to you. :(

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Twist some more ... Yes those men FOUGHT ... FOR ****IN' REAL ... we are discussing gameplay in a virtual online game that has no consequence of death ... stop with the stupidity.
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« Reply #122 on: November 30, 2005, 02:27:47 PM »
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Yup, you guys have me pegged, I'm very, very stupid!  ;)

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No ... not very, very ... but calculated stupid. ;)
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« Reply #123 on: November 30, 2005, 02:30:19 PM »
Don't confuse fear of Dying, with the fear of Living.

No one wants to die.  However, there are very few people out there who aren't afraid of living.
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« Reply #124 on: November 30, 2005, 02:36:36 PM »
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Twist some more ... Yes those men FOUGHT ... FOR ****IN' REAL ... we are discussing gameplay in a virtual online game that has no consequence of death ... stop with the stupidity.


Whether there is an actual, tangible consequence for dying or not should not alter the the definition of accepted fighter combat dogma. Either E-Fighters are able to, by definition, furball turnfighters in the classic sense employing E fighter tactics or they are not, in real life or in the game. Wether the real pilot dies actually and the simulating pilot only dies theoretically should not change the facts. In another thread I quoted the US Navy's definition of a furball, the US military and RAF sure as hell didn't consider it only a furball if their E-Fighters turnfought the enemies' turnfighters. I guess we had better get the US Dept. of Defense on the phone to inform them that according to the mighty Slapshot, Morpheous and Mars, they are incorrect and need to ammend their fighter combat manuals accordingly. ;)

I can just see the WW2  pilots interviewed after a fight, "Well son did you actually turn with the zeke?"  
"Well no sir, I used my speed and firepower to bleed his E vertically then killed him as he stalled out."
"I'm sorry to hear that my boy, no kill for you, you didn't actually 'fight' him, had you turned your F4 with the zeke it would have been a real fight and you would have got credit for the kill"
"Sir, that makes me very sad, I killed him using my planes attributes to negate his advantages as I was tought"
"That may be but, you are the 15th F4 pilot I've taken AAR's from and none of you turned with any of those 30 Zekes, that was no furball at all! Cowards!"


Give me a break! :rofl



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« Reply #125 on: November 30, 2005, 02:46:02 PM »
zazen.... it's pretty simple really... they are telling you that you are as boring to fight as you are to read.

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« Reply #126 on: November 30, 2005, 02:47:24 PM »
BIG FRIGGIN YAWN

:lol  lazs ya beat me to it by 1 minute! It will cost you 2 stolen kills next time we're on! ;)
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« Reply #127 on: November 30, 2005, 02:48:10 PM »
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zazen.... it's pretty simple really... they are telling you that you are as boring to fight as you are to read.

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I'm truly sorry to hear that, it just breaks my wittle bitty heart! It does! Seriosuly! Believe me! Please believe me! No, I'm not kidding! Honest! ;)


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« Reply #128 on: November 30, 2005, 02:57:19 PM »
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Whether there is an actual, tangible consequence for dying or not should not alter the the definition of accepted fighter combat dogma. Either E-Fighters are able to, by definition, furball turnfighters in the classic sense employing E fighter tactics or they are not, in real life or in the game. Wether the real pilot dies actually and the simulating pilot only dies theoretically should not change the facts. In another thread I quoted the US Navy's definition of a furball, the US military and RAF sure as hell didn't consider it only a furball if their E-Fighters turnfought the enemies' turnfighters. I guess we had better get the US Dept. of Defense on the phone to inform them that according to the mighty Slapshot, Morpheous and Mars, they are incorrect and need to ammend their fighter combat manuals accordingly. ;)

I can just see the WW2  pilots interviewed after a fight, "Well son did you actually turn with the zeke?"  
"Well no sir, I used my speed and firepower to bleed his E vertically then killed him as he stalled out."
"I'm sorry to hear that my boy, no kill for you, you didn't actually 'fight' him, had you turned your F4 with the zeke it would have been a real fight and you would have got credit for the kill"
"Sir, that makes me very sad, I killed him using my planes attributes to negate his advantages as I was tought"
"That may be but, you are the 15th F4 pilot I've taken AAR's from and none of you turned with any of those 30 Zekes, that was no furball at all! Cowards!"


Give me a break! :rofl



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« Reply #129 on: November 30, 2005, 02:58:36 PM »
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Your most intelligent, articulate and well thought out reply yet! Congratulations! ;)

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« Reply #130 on: November 30, 2005, 03:00:26 PM »
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Score mongers coupled with poor pilots who will never get better because all they can do is run and look for AFK planes on climbout.

My guess anyways.

Heh, I should be an outstanding pilot then cuz I been shot down more ways than anyone in here.

I been killed by cherry pickin, HOing, stupidity (on my part), skilled foe, stupidity but lucky (on my foe's part), gang-banged, friendly fire, ack, wife ack, rocket, tree, hillside, blackout, red out, wing rip, pilot wounded, typing, chute-shot, and some dumb sumbit## testing his Hispanos on the rw at same time I'm trying to take off.
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« Reply #131 on: November 30, 2005, 03:01:09 PM »
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Your most intelligent and well thought out reply yet! Congratulations! ;)

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what ... oh .... you again !!!


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« Reply #132 on: November 30, 2005, 03:12:20 PM »
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I disagree. Escaping to a friendly base is easier if it's closer, IMHO.

easier ? ... What the heck does that have to do with it ... they are running cause they can't or are afraid to fight ... period ... distance to the base makes no difference ... a grapefruit will always run without consideration as to base proximity.

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This is a game. There is no fear. There is no cowardice. No bravery. No heroes. Within the confines of the arena, there are no ethics. This is just a game.

There is simply tactics. Not everyone shares your objective. Likewise, they won't share your tactics.

Don't expect for a moment that you can prove your manhood in the arena.

It's a video game. Nothing more.
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« Reply #133 on: November 30, 2005, 03:13:12 PM »
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what ... oh .... you again !!!


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You remind me of a little kid who doesn't want to hear his mother tell him to go clean his room so puts his hands over his ears shouting Lalalalalalalalalalalala hoping she'll stop telling him something he doesn't want to hear. ;)

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« Reply #134 on: November 30, 2005, 03:14:11 PM »
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This is a game. There is no fear. There is no cowardice. No bravery. No heroes. Within the confines of the arena, there are no ethics. This is just a game.

There is simply tactics. Not everyone shares your objective. Likewise, they won't share your tactics.

Don't expect for a moment that you can prove your manhood in the arena.

It's a video game. Nothing more.


BINGO! Give this man a prize! He UNDERSTANDS what so many others fail to. :aok

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