could USSR have been saved? (mature audiences only)

[tikky]

Could USSR have been saved or was it beyond repair or just too late?

Could USSR have been like the current Peoples Republic of China if USSR survived?

(keep it civil:))

[NUKE]

The USSR was saved.

[Vulcan]

Originally posted by tikky
(keep it civil)

You must be new here.

[Russian]

Originally posted by NUKE
The USSR was saved.

You mean half-arsed liberated?

[NUKE]

Originally posted by Russian
You mean half-arsed liberated?

??

Nobody "liberated" the USSR.

[Russian]

Originally posted by NUKE
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Nobody "liberated" the USSR.

USSR was liberated from USSR (with a help from unfree-freedom givers)

[NUKE]

Now, no country is under the control of the USSR. Some things just work out well and good.

[NUKE]

It's a good thing that the USSR went away.

[Russian]

Originally posted by NUKE
It's a good thing that the USSR went away.

The world was a much safer place when there was a balance of powers. So IMHO, no, it was not a good thing.

[Chairboy]

The USSR would probably still be together if the hardliners hadn't overreacted.  Thanks guys!

It could probably have stumbled along with perestroika pumping some life into the economy as needed.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

Not much changed in russia.. The state level corruption just switched to private level corruption. Most people are still poor, some even poorer than before mostly because some are now filthy rich through stealing from what used to be common property.

The power structures had a chance of moving away from dictatorship but Mr. Putin seems to realize russia needs to be led by a strong hand. They can't deal with freedom and democracy.

As what happened with KGB it was namely a name change.

[Henrique Jitsu]

Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
Not much changed in russia.. The state level corruption just switched to private level corruption. Most people are still poor, some even poorer than before mostly because some are now filthy rich through stealing from what used to be common property.

The power structures had a chance of moving away from dictatorship but Mr. Putin seems to realize russia needs to be led by a strong hand. They can't deal with freedom and democracy.

As what happened with KGB it was namely a name change.

Talking about KGB, did you guys see it?I did!
Some russian guys with laods of medals were giving a declaration to the press and the realtives of the victims about the Kursk Acident when a women(mother of one of the killed in the accident) stood up and started shouting like: murdereres!butchers!gay! and then a women comes to calm her down. At first, me and the world thought that it was her friend, but then they replayed it and froze it in a moment,the women was a KGB agent and she drew a tranquilizer and 'calmed down' the women, she also ofered a cup of water that some people believe taht also had tranquilizers.

I saw this on a tv program,but maybe you will find the video online,if you want.

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]

As what happened with KGB it was namely a name change.

Exactly.
The hardliners are still there and still abundant. If the chance is ever allowed to arise it would be the same old boat.

[Hornet33]

The question I have is why anyone in their right mind would have wanted the USSR to survive. That government killed and imprisioned more people than Hitler and the NAZI's could ever have hoped to. The entire government was based on fear, and corruption. The idea of communism as a viable form of government is absurd. When a government is run by a handfull of people that answer to no one, least of all the people they govern, then you end up with what the USSR became. A populace that is unable to speak out against their own government for fear of being imprisoned or killed by that government.

The USSR was doomed to fail from the start. Glad it happened, and I would willingly lay down my life to prevent it from happening again.

[CyranoAH]

From Dilbert:

Dogbert: You know what's Communism? The most painful way to go from Capitalism to Capitalism.

Daniel