A tip for the BoB Royal Airforce pilots..

[Krusty]

Eh, one thing you MUST say when comparing AH to IL2 is that IL2 has more internal stuff to damage, yes, but it's also way overboard in the opposite extreme!

Unless you fly with "simplistic gunnery" or unless you fly with "unlimited ammo" you will 99% of the time unload EVERY ROUND you have into a plane point blank and receive no kill, no fire, no damage, just put holes in its wings.

So while AH2 is to ONE extreme (no internal damage, hardly able to make a kill with 303s), IL2 is far across the spectrum at the other end (millions of stuff to damage, hardly able to make a kill with 303s).

The result is the same. Hardly able to make a kill.

Ideally (and this is my wish) we will get some internal things that are easily damaged by lighter caliber MGs but won't seriously throw off gameplay. Bombers especially need this.

[storch]

dudes damage the pilot, aim for the cockpit.

[Kweassa]

Eh, one thing you MUST say when comparing AH to IL2 is that IL2 has more internal stuff to damage, yes, but it's also way overboard in the opposite extreme!

Unless you fly with "simplistic gunnery" or unless you fly with "unlimited ammo" you will 99% of the time unload EVERY ROUND you have into a plane point blank and receive no kill, no fire, no damage, just put holes in its wings.

So while AH2 is to ONE extreme (no internal damage, hardly able to make a kill with 303s), IL2 is far across the spectrum at the other end (millions of stuff to damage, hardly able to make a kill with 303s).

The result is the same. Hardly able to make a kill.

 
 Er... nope.
 
 I don't know which gunnery model you are talking about, but the 'unrealistically hard to shoot down' gunnery in IL-2 disappeared at least two or three years ago. If anything, I find it actually easier to shoot down planes in IL-2, since they don't shrug off shots like it was nothing in AH.

[FiLtH]

The other day we were intercepting a JU88 raid. It was a large group. There were escorting 109s..8 I think as well. There was 6 of us. I was acting flight lead and ordred to attack the JU88s. I said when we go in..we attack the left most formation, left most plane of that formation, in the left wing. We attacked...As we did so I saw smoke from the engine but that was about it.

[eh]

Compare the one contendor to AH in WW2 combat flight simulation gaming, IL-2/FB series.

This Flight Sim is still very much alive, as this film made from a scenario frame from a couple of weeks ago, attests.

http://www.savlan.com/475fg/videos/the_gauntlet.wmv

That being said, exactly the same debate over FMs, DMs and ammo loads is being conducted in WBs World War Two arena . The argument over there, now years old, is about undermodelled and badly undergunned early war Axis planes. By contrast to Aces High, 109s are said to be defanged, and the Brit .303s are said to be lasers. FWIW, the Aces High modelling on both counts is much better ... I played both games for more than two years. Emils and Franzs should be deadly because they actually were when flown as intended, and there are plenty of players in AH who really know how to fly them well.

Interesting, isn't it? In Air Warrior the same debate raged for years in their Allies vs. Axis arena. It's in the nature of the rps in an historical setting which brings these arguments out, probably.

I quit WBs over the neglect of their Allies vs. Axis arena, only to find, on my return to full time playing in AH, that Aces High has developed an Allies v Axis arena all its own!

Lucky me! It feels like Old Home Week (emphasis on old!)


BRAVO HTC!!!!!!!!!!!!!    


 

[Oldman731]

Originally posted by eh
I quit WBs over the neglect of their Allies vs. Axis arena, only to find, on my return to full time playing in AH, that Aces High has developed an Allies v Axis arena all its own!  

Good to see you again, eh.

- oldman

[eh]

Thank you oldman. I remember you from years back (The Old Ones of Air Warrior). Great squadron... great bunch. I am glad that you are still all together.

[Oldman731]

Originally posted by eh
Thank you oldman. I remember you from years back (The Old Ones of Air Warrior). Great squadron... great bunch. I am glad that you are still all together.

Heh.  That was a different guy, "Oldmn" in AW.  He flew RR.  I was "Oldma" in FR.  I believe that Oldmn still flies in AH, used to see him on my very occasional visits to the MA.

- oldman