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« Reply #480 on: April 07, 2006, 12:50:04 PM »
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I think the question that we should have been asking from the start is "Why do people pork?" And it's not just about griefing. Then we could have probably figured a way to handle all the variants of it.



Perhaps it's the best way to stop your countries bases being taken?
Can't believe you seriously asked that question.
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« Reply #481 on: April 07, 2006, 12:52:35 PM »
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600 players online every evening, Why should all flya chaotic endless furball !? Isn't that borring!?
If you are not into that then fine win the war.  No furballer wants you guys to stop winning the war.  We just want you to stop ***** up our furballs.  It's that plain and that simple.  If there is a FT/TT stay out of there with your troops and bombers.  Just cause you don't like furballing all the time doesn't mean I have to stop.  But when you guys drop hangers in FT or at good fight then I do have to stop.

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« Reply #482 on: April 07, 2006, 12:59:47 PM »
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Perhaps it's the best way to stop your countries bases being taken?


Then what's the need to pork FH at a base where there's a furball raging over it?

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« Reply #483 on: April 07, 2006, 01:09:31 PM »
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Then what's the need to pork FH at a base where there's a furball raging over it?


Whenever I'm at base where the FH's go down, I just up from the closest base, no biggie.

Oh - I'm not getting into the gv/toolshedders/furball slanging match, everyone pays their $14.95, everyone plays the way they see fit.
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« Reply #484 on: April 07, 2006, 01:10:47 PM »
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Whenever I'm at base where the FH's go down, I just up from the closest base, no biggie.


Me too. (shrug)

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« Reply #485 on: April 07, 2006, 01:19:14 PM »
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Whenever I'm at base where the FH's go down, I just up from the closest base, no biggie.
Yeah once and a while that is fine and we all do it.

Also this is why the maps with closer fields are nice.  On Fester and to a degree OZ FHrs getting dropped are not that big of a deal beacause the fight can go on since the bases are not a sector or more apart.

With that said, on the other maps where the most bases are a sector or more apart your solution gets old fast.  It sucks for guys that like the early war stuff because it takes for ever to go a sector.  It sucks because you can fly a sector to find you were the only friendly to do this and now you are facing 20 guys all by yourself.  Not worth the sector flight. etc.

I wish it were as simple as some of you make it out to be, then I would be logging more hours in AH than infront of the Boob tube.

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« Reply #486 on: April 07, 2006, 01:30:16 PM »
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Also this is why the maps with closer fields are nice.  On Fester and to a degree OZ FHrs getting dropped are not that big of a deal beacause the fight can go on since the bases are not a sector or more apart.

You beat me to it Mars, I was gonna say much the same thing. I should add though that this is the reason killing the FHs at FT is even more aggregious to us.

On donut there are no close bases and you have the high mountains, so if they kill your FT FHs you are grounded. On whatever map we had last night the furball island is fairly well isolated as well, so when some rook misshun came in and flattened 106 we all sat there for 10-15 minutes and waited for them to come back up before we could play again. I grabbed a beer and looked all around the map for other locales but all I saw was a full red bardar up against a small green one or just the opposite a few sectors away. I am simply not inclined to fight for or against a steamrolling horde of base-blasters.

I should also mention that the offenders are just as often and maybe more often flying Jabos than they are flying fluffs. To help make Doc's point not all griefrs fly bombers.
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« Reply #487 on: April 07, 2006, 02:45:25 PM »
Well -

All that has to be done is the ord kept killed at the bases in FT, but of course 'thats someone elses job'.

Its a bit like complaining it's raining with an umbrella sitting right next to you.
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« Reply #488 on: April 07, 2006, 02:47:45 PM »
delta.

every missun is the same and just as bad as the last.

Every furball is different.  Anyone who had ever actually participated in a real furball would know this.

You will lose most of the poor timid nebies you have conned into not having fun before long.  

The evolution is simple... try the furball.... either realize that you need to get better and have the will to continue even tho you are getting your butt handed to you or.....

sour grapes it and say it is just boring and go to griefer fluffing and whistleing in the dark.... get sick of doing nothing and lieing to yourself and either quit the game entirely with some excuse or...

 go back to trying to learn how to fight.


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« Reply #489 on: April 07, 2006, 02:48:09 PM »
Cmon Kev, is it really too much to ask the Griefers to stay out of FT.  Why make excuses for a bunch of people that want to be AHoles.

So now someone has to go around and kill ord every 5 or 15 mins.  Yeah that's a solution. :rolleyes:

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« Reply #490 on: April 07, 2006, 02:48:30 PM »
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All that has to be done is the ord kept killed at the bases in FT, but of course 'thats someone elses job'.


while i agree with you, that should not have to be done.  enough adults on this game that it shouldnt come to that.  just respect that little circle in middle of map, know why its there, and move on.
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« Reply #491 on: April 07, 2006, 02:57:10 PM »
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Well -

All that has to be done is the ord kept killed at the bases in FT, but of course 'thats someone elses job'.

Its a bit like complaining it's raining with an umbrella sitting right next to you.


Disabling ord and troops at FT should be like a 1-minute edit of a config file, no?

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« Reply #492 on: April 07, 2006, 02:58:41 PM »
Voss,

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Long time no see.

I read this thread and felt very, very

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« Reply #493 on: April 07, 2006, 03:01:34 PM »
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Disabling ord and troops at FT should be like a 1-minute edit of a config file, no?


nope ... 30 seconds.
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« Reply #494 on: April 07, 2006, 03:03:15 PM »
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You're doing a nice job trying to soften your message but your past words are there for all to see. You have shown everyone what you are.

No one appointed you the head of the AH Police. Where you come off thinking its your job or your calling to dictate how the game is played? You are only trying to protect one form of gameplay - the one you like.

You can take your underground and shove it ... changing sides is no big deal ... that's what you're supposed to do when you don't like someone or something where you are now. But as far as I'm concerned anyone who deliberately spies on a teammate, or promotes and organizes it - even in a dumb game - is forever unworthy of my trust.

Anyone who's followed this thread now knows that the instant they disagree with you, they can't trust you because you will stab them in the back if it suits your needs. Enjoy it, learn to like it.


One thing you guys need to understand. There is a large group of us who have known each other 15 years or longer thru these games. Many of us have met one another in person or spoken at length on the phone. I have even had friends from AW stay at my house when they were in my town. We have known one another and been friends much, much longer than AH has been in existence. We are intensely loyal to one another regardless of which imaginary country we happen to be on in the MA in AH. Furthermore, every single person in this category I can think of is a fighter jock, we have long since out-grown our toolshedding phase, our experience in-game has lead us the the point where air to air combat is all that really matters.

Many of us went thru the phase you and people like LCA are in now, but we quickly outgrew it. That is not to say we don't understand the appeal toolshedding for its own sake can have to newer players seeking to have some impact on the flow of the game beyond their meager skill-level, we do. But, when that toolshedding interferes with our enjoyment of this product we have no choice but to do whatever is necessary to mitigate that effect. We have several ways of doing this, thru discussion on these boards, via in-game appeals, side-switching, head-hunting and other, more clandestine means. But, one thing is certain we will do whatever we need to do to preserve the continued integrity and viability of air to air combat as an intensely enjoyable means of experiencing AH.

I know it's hard, with relatively little experience in this genre, to understand that this fascination with toolshedding and griefing is a shortlived phase. But, trust us who've walked down the very path you are on well over a decade ago, it is. When you are even half as experienced as we are you will begin to understand, or maybe not, in which case you will have undoubtedly quit the game from boredom and apathy.

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