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Offline Zazen13

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« Reply #510 on: April 07, 2006, 05:13:04 PM »
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What does shades mean?


Well its original meaning was an account used by a design team staff member to play without being recognized. Later it was expanded to include any account used by anyone to shed or conceal their true identity. It was very common in AW AOL where you could have multiple screen names and therefore many 'shades' accounts. It's also very common in AH where many abuse the 2 week free trial to concoct new names constantly or have an alternate free account to play if they badly damage their reputation on their permanent account.

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« Reply #511 on: April 07, 2006, 05:13:49 PM »
No, havent been around for a long time.  I resubbed, but my stick was broken.  Bought a new one off Ebay and that one's broken as well.  I may be able to use parts from one to fix the other, not sure yet.  I suppose I could fly now, but the one stick I've got doesnt have a hat that works real well.
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« Reply #512 on: April 07, 2006, 05:14:17 PM »
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... I have never even seen you in-game or even heard of you until this thread. I also never played Warbirds. ...  


Then you're the n00b.


Geee ... I never even look at my own score.

Tour 75 ... zip ... told ya I hadn't been flying, despite your accusations that I have been actively killing your FH all freakin' week.

Tour 74 ... 59 fighter and 13 attack sorties to 16 bomber sorties. Wait ... didn't you just say I rarely flew fighters? According to the stats less then 20% of my aircraft sorties were in bombers. Hmmm .... maybe it was just that one tour ... obviously I must have been toolshedding up a storm before this, right?

Tour 73 ... 80 fighter and attack to 13 bomber.

Tour 72 ... 53 fighter and attack to 6 bomber.

Tour 71 ... 54 fighter/attack to 2 bomber.

Tour 70 ... 28 fighter/attack to 0 bomber.

The stats show that, in fact, I rarely fly bombers. I should try to see how many of those were IL2's killing GV's or in base defense. And way less than half my fighter sorties are in the attack profile. Sure don't look like the sortie distribution of toolshedder, now do it?

Those numbers don't lie.


While I appreciate your gracious offer, if I ever decide to get serious about my game I'd ask someone like Urchin or Furball or SlapShot for help in the DA. Even though I frequently disagree with all of them, often vehemently, they remain honest in their dealings with people. And FurBall has the most scary-good gunnery I have ever seen on film.


I frankly give zero consideration to my score. I fly a lot of undergunned planes (51B, Yak) so I probably get as many assists as kills. And because I'll fly 5 or 6 different planes in a night, and often go days or weeks or months sometimes without playing, my gunnery remains crappy because I'm always adjusting to different ballistics or re-learning the ToF. And I really never learn the extent of the envelope on any ... so I don't push as hard as I probably could. If I cared about my score, I'd stick to one plane. But I enjoy flying all the planes - that's what's fun for me.

To someone consumed with scores and ranking, that may seem hard to digest ... but I had my "time in the sun" ... gots nuthin' to prove.
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« Reply #513 on: April 07, 2006, 05:18:19 PM »
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To someone consumed with scores and ranking, that may seem hard to digest ... but I had my "time in the sun" ... gots nuthin' to prove.


I am not in the least bit concerned with score or rank, just effectiveness, your stats (not rank/score) indicate, for whatever reason, that you are quite ineffective in a fighter. I was just offering to help in an evffort to give you an alternative to the pork-o-rama playstyle. I am sure those people you mentioned would be more than happy to help you too.

The vast majority of your 'fighter' sorties are in attack mode where ordnance was delivered. I wouldn't exactly call that quality fighter jock trigger-time, more like porking. I also don't consider the Yak undergunned, 37mm is very strong...


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« Reply #514 on: April 07, 2006, 05:21:24 PM »
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Then you're the n00b.


 


How am I noob? I've been playing since 1990. I just always played AW never Warbirds...

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« Reply #515 on: April 07, 2006, 05:24:19 PM »
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I have never even seen you in-game or even heard of you until this thread.



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Dok was playing Air Warrior when it was DOS. I thought you used to play AW also. Maybe you didn't play until AOL or something.

Just saying
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i dont got enough perkies as it is and i like upen my lancs to kill 1 dang t 34 or wirble its fun droping 42 bombs

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« Reply #516 on: April 07, 2006, 05:26:17 PM »
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I am not in the least bit concerned with score or rank, just effectiveness, your stats (not rank/score) indicate, for whatever reason, that you are quite ineffective in a fighter. I was just offering to help, I am sure those people you mentioned would be more than happy to help you too.


Fair enough. I am as effective as I want to be at the moment.

I get as much satisfaction from roping somone in a zoom-climb in my Yak so a team-mate gets a kill as I do from whatever I shoot down myself. And if I get one clean 1-pass kill from bouncing someone in a night, I'm happy. That's just the way I play the game.
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« Reply #517 on: April 07, 2006, 05:29:29 PM »
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Fair enough. I am as effective as I want to be at the moment.

I get as much satisfaction from roping somone in a zoom-climb in my Yak so a team-mate gets a kill as I do from whatever I shoot down myself. And if I get one clean 1-pass kill from bouncing someone in a night, I'm happy. That's just the way I play the game.


Hey, if it works for you, that's great. So long as you're not ruining my fun I'm just happy you're happy. Only when a playstyle habitually ruins my fun to I get my ire up...

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« Reply #518 on: April 07, 2006, 05:33:15 PM »
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I am not in the least bit concerned with score or rank, just effectiveness, your stats (not rank/score) indicate, for whatever reason, that you are quite ineffective in a fighter. I was just offering to help in an evffort to give you an alternative to the pork-o-rama playstyle. I am sure those people you mentioned would be more than happy to help you too.

The vast majority of your 'fighter' sorties are in attack mode where ordnance was delivered. I wouldn't exactly call that quality fighter jock trigger-time, more like porking. I also don't consider the Yak undergunned, 37mm is very strong...


Tour 74 ... 59 fighter/13 attack ... that's vast majority? I don't know what you're looking at, but they sure as hell ain't what I'm seeing on HT's scores page.

The closest you can get is Tour 73 at 42/38 ... that's not even equal, let alone a majority.

Yak-9U is quite undergunned, that's what I fly.


I flew AW before there was a DOS version ... just Mac (B&W), Amiga, and then the Atari ST.
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« Reply #519 on: April 07, 2006, 05:33:53 PM »
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I see by your sheets you only very, very rarely fly fighters and when you do you are next to useless in one.
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I'd take DocGonzo in a duel between you two.  You're not very good yourself and hardly should comment on the fighting abilities of another.



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« Reply #520 on: April 07, 2006, 05:34:25 PM »
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Zazen
Dok was playing Air Warrior when it was DOS. I thought you used to play AW also. Maybe you didn't play until AOL or something.

Just saying


I played AW since 1990 (aw4w on AOL) until it was killed by EA, then moved to AH.

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« Reply #521 on: April 07, 2006, 05:34:58 PM »
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I'd take DocGonzo in a duel between you two.  You're not very good yourself and hardly should comment on the fighting abilities of another.



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Yup, I suck, but at least I try hard... ;) Anyways AKAk I don't think we've even ever fought, what are you basing you evaluation on? Just curious...


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« Reply #522 on: April 07, 2006, 05:39:23 PM »
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Yup, I suck, but I try hard... ;) Anyways AKAk I don't think we've even ever fought, what are you basing you evaluation on? Just curious...


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We've fought and you lost those few times we've met. *shrug*


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« Reply #523 on: April 07, 2006, 05:41:00 PM »
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We've fought and you lost those few times we've met. *shrug*


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Really? I don't ever remember fighting you much less losing to you, and I remember my fights very vividly...especially my deaths, as I rarely die. Were you using a different name? I only remember killing you once, I cherry-picked you while you were vulching...not exactly a fight obviously...

I remember Murdr killing me once on a sweet overshoot shot in his P38, I remember pellik cherry-picking me with his 262, I remember ZZ3 head-hunting me successfully once with a SpitIX on Pizza map 4 years ago,  but never you...I have a nearly photographic memory...




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« Reply #524 on: April 07, 2006, 05:51:25 PM »
i havent read a page of this thread...

could someone summarise for me please?
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