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Offline ujustdied

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« on: April 05, 2006, 04:47:08 PM »
ive been flying this p51 for quite a while and it really seems that its turning radius is alot bigger. what i mean is, is that it doesnt turn like it used to i mean its stalling in a turn fight and beraly (when gets below 200MPH) stays up. it seems like it ways 500 pounds more then it was before. i can beraly even do a lag roll dog figthing some 1and before it seems i could out turn any 1. :cry

is any 1 else having the problem.
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Offline sharp8th

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« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2006, 04:55:50 PM »
dont you ever stop b***hing about things

Offline TracerX

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« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2006, 05:00:35 PM »
Fly a 109 For a while.  I doubt you will complain about the P51 anymore.

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« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2006, 05:05:45 PM »
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dont you ever stop b***hing about things
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Have you been turn fighting with Zeke's in that pony?
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Offline ujustdied

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« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2006, 05:54:48 PM »
no but its just like it feels 500 pounds heavier it just seems like it has gone through a bug change

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« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2006, 06:10:16 PM »
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no but its just like it feels 500 pounds heavier it just seems like it has gone through a bug change


 The fun of using the Spits for  turn fighting down low & slow  in the weeds and trees,   are now also  just as crapy .......
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« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2006, 06:31:27 PM »
You can't win in turn fights? Larger turn radius? Are you piloting it correctly? Make sure you're not going too fast, use your rudder and flaps and you're bound to give the enemy a run for their money.

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« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2006, 07:05:11 PM »
Make sure Thrust Vectoring is enabled.

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« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2006, 07:26:41 PM »
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Make sure Thrust Vectoring is enabled.


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« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2006, 09:24:35 PM »
Check your ordnance load in the hanger, as well as the fuel load.
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Offline Bodhi

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« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2006, 09:25:57 PM »
how about a dose of reality in how the 51 should turn... All the drivers I know say keep it above 200 or you're a smoking hole.
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« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2006, 09:35:38 PM »
Yup Yup  just as Bodhi says.... I once talked to a real P51 WWII pilot and he said if you dont do anything else in a P51 you always keep it above 200 and never even 200 without the nose at least level or in a descent.  ....Its just a target under 200

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« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2006, 09:40:17 PM »
Well, I wouldnt reccomend being under 200 in anything unless you were in a position of advantage. Thats harldy unique to the P-51.

Anything in the MA is a "target" under 200.

Be that as it may, he may have issues with ord load or fuel that he wasnt aware of.

Also stick calibration issues, ect.

And of course, practice makes perfect.

We all assume that folks that ask Q. here are vets who know all this stuff inside and out, but thats not the case.
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« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2006, 09:59:13 PM »
I think some perspective is in order here. Check out kweassa's post on turn rates and you'll see the P51-D and B feature in the bottom 1/4 or so of the list. The P51 can out turn a number of things, but it never was, and never will be a stall-fighter. If you want to prevail in angles fighting try a spit mk8 or 16 or a zeke or N1k.

If you still think the P51 is a mongrel, then (and im quite serious when i suggest this, as its exactly what im doing this tour) fly a P47-D or N for a tour, then your (and my) beloved pony will feel like it handles on rails.

Also try the P51-B or the P51-D with only 4 50 cals, and only take 50% fuel and the drop-tanks. Drop ya tanks when ya need to get jiggy and fly it to its strengths and its a real monster.

When you say it doesnt turn like it used to, then nor does any plane in the plane set. AH flight model has been through numerous changes over the years, some small, some not so small. But all the changes will always apply across all the planes in the planeset at any given time, so any planes relative performance to others wont really change. Further i dont think HTCs latest change has altered its characteristics much at all.
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« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2006, 11:21:49 PM »
Prop, what I was specifically refering to was the 51's wonderful little habit of snapping into a violent spin below 200 kts. when in maneuvers...
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